i say yes if ryan makes the server to bad
Owner vote off Proposal
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i vote to make tf a theocracy with markbyron as our god and ryan as his representative on earth
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↩ @'phrman' You all voted for him when he made as much clear in his owner manifesto.
that's a thing? where can i find this?
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bro ryan binding tf to a corporate entity so he cant be voted off is hilarious to me 💀
you all played yourself
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↩ DragonSlayer2189 fwiw this was after he got voted in
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↩ videogamesm12 im just gonna say it, you.
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Here's the solution, guys. Since Ryan has peecided to overstep the ownership policy, we need to start a Pee-Resignation Notice. Ryan may own the domain, but we can always peetire from this server and create a new server called "TotalPeedom."
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someone lock this before it gets out of hand
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↩ @'ThePatronusCharm' No. I don't have the funds to do that, even if I wanted to.
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A thread like this is really unfortunate and indicates to me that certain fools aren’t thinking before they act impulsively.
Everyone can join the dots as to the group of people behind this thread. This group clearly has an idea of what they’re playing with, given that they almost caused the server’s shutdown in the past. I’m sure if TotalFreedom was to close or gain a new owner right now, we’d hear word of a different Free-OP server more frequently from them.
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↩ ThePyroManActualAccount i was talking abour dr pee pee (never thought i would be saying this line)
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This is untrue, is it not?
Also, wasn't the hub idea popular with the community when it was first being discussed?
Quotei dont like the way things are run, but frankly this is getting annoying and old how people keep voting off the owners. its his server not a community server.
It is indeed a community server. The only reason Wild is owner is because he was elected by the community. I think this reasoning died when Mark gave the controls to Windows.
QuoteIt's relevant because it is certainly not the standard. Ryan's way of running TF is akin to how Mark ran it.
Quote↩ simplynick For those whom are unaware, Ryan has made it very clear how he plans to run TotalFreedom. If it was ignored, then it’s too late. Atlas owns TotalFreedom, inside and out. You can’t vote off the Owner with a thread from his sub-projects. As a member of the community, you have a right to an opinion to be shared and discussed, however, to use the vote off card because of a majority disagreement will not work as easy as it was with the previous owners.
↩ @'phrman' yall basically said in the ‘tl;dr’ that a big reason ryan isnt suited for owner cuz he doesnt agree with the community. You all voted for him when he made as much clear in his owner manifesto.
I think it's disingenious to not mention the outcry that happened once Wild removed the policy (myself included). Another thing worth keeping in mind is that people weren't made aware of the fact that he would remove said policy.
The "You voted for him"-argument seems to be a focal point of the disagreemnt and confusion: not everyone thinks that he made things very clear. (Perhaps it would be wise to quote the thread in question here?)
Quote↩ @'r00t' Okay, but even if this gets approved, he literally owns the domain, which means you can’t just vote him off.
Which is an issue. But in no real way could we ever enforce such a policy (before Wild) without Mark's help, so the policy has always been 'redundant' even if the intentions are good.
to be fair I think a lot of the criticism from either side is thin air from an outsiders POV (mine). The major quarrel seems to be the argument that Wild is out of touch with the community, however I don't see very much that supports this notion in this thread.
TL: DR:
Unban Ivan, as his permban was a clear result of hurt feelings and not proper procedure.
No to vote off.
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