tf!start for OPs

elmon · January 1, 2021 at 2:46 AM

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Hey everyone. Ashaz here.
So sometimes when the server dies or shuts itself, OPs have to call admins. Sometimes admins don’t respond. Anyway, I think we should allow tf!start for everyone including OPs. As long as we know it won’t restart TF every time it’s ran, then it’ll be okay.

Normally I wouldn't have posted this because he's forum banned, but I wanted to hear what people thought. The main issue I can come up with is that if the server is down for maintenance or something and everyone would be starting it constantly. To bypass this I can easily add a toggle for this feature.

Thoughts?

January 1, 2021 at 3:29 AM

Vouch - don't see an issue with this

zeseryu · January 1, 2021 at 4:07 AM

why is there just not a bot that runs that command in a seperate unseen channel after a certain amount of time.

surely there is a way to detect if the server is offline? Why is this not automated?

Miwojedk · January 1, 2021 at 4:44 AM

The command itself seems redundant when taking SKS' proposal in to account.

Object.

Luke · January 1, 2021 at 10:57 AM

object for miwo's reason. Also, there may be some times when the server is off intentionally, it has happened before where admins have been asked not to use tf!start. Ops will use tf!start anyway.

Please don't make it habit to post suggestions on Ashaz's behalf because then there's no point in banning him.

**StevenNL2000** · January 1, 2021 at 11:06 AM

I think the bot commands were always meant to be a temporary solution. In the long term, a panel and/or a decent automatic crash detection system would always be better.

simplynick · January 1, 2021 at 12:55 PM

I agree with Steven, having a panel or a system that automatically restarts the server incase it crashes.

I dont think OPs need tf!start since most of the time the server needs to be stopped or killed before starting it once again. (If the server ever goes down, its better to let the Admins know and better off the executive team)

**wild1145** · January 1, 2021 at 1:06 PM

I'm not really happy with giving ops access to start the server, it's not necessary.

I'm working in slower time at the moment on sorting the automatic restart script out which paper can invoke if it detects a crash in order to restart things, and need to make some other tweaks to the scripts anyway.

Think this is the solution to a problem that doesn't really exist as well. If the server has gone down odds generally are that it's crashed and still running so would still need admin intervention.

elmon · January 1, 2021 at 1:16 PM

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@Luke#4138 Ops will use tf!start anyway.
Please don't make it habit to post suggestions on Ashaz's behalf because then there's no point in banning him

bro did you even read what i said after

elmon · January 1, 2021 at 1:18 PM

I can try and incorporate some kind of automated start system but idk how effective i can make it, I'll look into it.

Luke · January 1, 2021 at 1:31 PM

@elmon#4146 this is aimed at pretty much everyone. It's not the first time he's asked someone to post a suggestion for him nor (I suspect) will it be the last.

elmon · January 1, 2021 at 1:33 PM

@Luke#4148 He didn't, he suggested it to me and I wanted to hear more people's thoughts so I asked him to write it out. - Consider it my suggestion

Xen · January 1, 2021 at 8:02 PM

Until Wild's solution is implemented, I think the bot should be used to auto restart the servers.

**wild1145** · January 15, 2021 at 4:38 PM

I'm going to decline this one for the time being. We have plenty of admins and the real issue is not that we don't have enough admins, it's that a lot sit in server chat talking when the server has crashed and said it went offline... This is a staff and doing their job problem, not a technical one for once.

tf!start for OPs

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