QuoteHad this application reached the stage where I would have processed it, I would have discarded shdwo’s vote for the reason I have since stated on Anzu’s thread announcing her leave:
videogamesm12 Along with the fact he was directly involved in what led to [Anzu] resigning, I’m aware that he has been holding a grudge against [her] ever since he was banned from the Discord. The reason for why is pretty obvious knowing what kind of tendencies he has and what happened to him a few months back. This cumulatively led me to conclude he didn’t vote in good faith.
I argued the exact same point as the two people above me, yet my vote was discarded? My point was valid and I have reasons to object.
Am I now not allowed to vote without it being assumed that my vote was due to bias? I understand that this may be useful in some certain scenarios, but just because someone holds a grudge against another doesn't mean that their vote was in favour of that grudge. People are capable of disregarding a grudge in favour of a fair vote...
If I had vouched on their reinstatement, you wouldn't have looked further into it, that vouch could have been due to bias (they could've been my friend) and you'd be completely fine with that. However if I was to vote negatively, with bias - you'd assume that my votes were automatically "fishy" and are worthy of looking into... If anything, the grudge should be looked into more than the outcome. The fact that a user may have a grudge against another says more than the reasoning itself.
Despite an overwhelming vouch:object ratio, the votes made on a reinstatement/application shouldn't be disregarded purely because the user making the vote has past experiences with the user applying.
Take this scenario for example:
(The first user is represented by A (the one applying), the second by B (the one objecting))
- user A spams user B's messages with racist remarks, then proceeds to delete them. user B has no evidence as the messages were deleted, yet they know it happened.
- user B holds a grudge against user A as they now know that they broke the rules without a way of proving it
- user A applies for admin and gets an overwhelming majority of vouches
- user B objects for their own reasoning...
Why should user B's vote get disregarded because of the grudge held against user A.