you dont have to be well involved to log into total freedom, see redeastwood cussing out a regular member and then object on his senior admin application.
thats exactly what i did. was my vote invalid? Im pretty Red has since improved his relations and even acknowleged it was bad in the first place.. completely valid vote and I think I even switched to a vouch on another application of his.
"However, if a player is inactive they have no way of knowing what the admin is like because they don't know the admin"
agreed. however, the way Elmon is going about marking players as inactive or active is very bad. Very bad even. see my examples of me being both active on the forums and discord but now ill get marked at "inactive"
"If you look at UnderTails' recent app, tons of random users joined the forum/randomly became active purely to vouch. It undermimes the voting system and means that votes are essentially rigged because what's stopping me getting 1 person to vote for every objection I get? What good is us having voting if any Tom, Dick and Harry can join the forum, go inactive, and vote anyway? What's stopping me getting a ton of irl friends, making them make accounts, and make them vote for me?"
what has ever prevented random users from registering and voting immediately on admin applications..... did we have ever something to prevent this on the old forums.. we had something to prevent this with the admin application process I instated. tons of players creating multiple accounts to vote on applications has almost never been a problem before, why is it a problem now?
i dont have to baby you through this man.
"What's stopping me getting a ton of irl friends, making them make accounts, and make them vote for me?"
nothing? whats preventing your friends from making a discord account, chatting amongst themselves, and then voting on your application?
its just harder for them right? thats good right? you solved the problem! No. voting should never require you to jump through hurdles and meet obligations in order for your vote to actually count. Idk if this is just a difference of opinion between me and elmon, but everyone should be able to vote unless you're permbanned. I don't see a reason on why limiting our players and their voices is ever good. I know they can give their opinion on the application still, but you don't count opinions when tallying the numbers, you count the actual votes.
applications, especially super admin applications, have always been about MOSTLY popularity contests and not actual administrative skill. are you trying to change that? good luck trying to get mostly teenagers to vote based on skill and not their friends