Jwmphall - MB Suspension
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↩ DragonSlayer2189 not seeing any request of removal. i figured he wanted me to stop hitting the lever
neither of us are changing our opinions lets stop spamming the forumi deleted this post and clearly someone undeleted it. see my post below for better explanation ^^^
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↩ RedEastWood these ones on their own i wouldn't say are swastikas, however jwmp had built 2 other builds which both were literally just a swastika, and had been told to remove them both times, I just don't have a screenshot of these builds
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Does the rule also apply to sexual builds like penises? If so, would I get removed from the rank for building a dick near spawn as a joke?
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↩ videogamesm12 unless they had gotten banned for it, no
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↩ DragonSlayer2189 and had been told to remove them both times
Do you have evidence of this interaction?
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↩ RedEastWood the first swastika was not mine, and the second was made as a joke to mock the first one. i was told to remove the first one despite it not being mine, and was not told to remove the second one (removed it did anyway once ayunami saw it)
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↩ DragonSlayer2189 as i said. the repeater swastika was not mine. i didnt want it destroyed because it was funny how pathetic it was, and @"fndndjdnsnsn"#360 did not ask me to remove it. if you provide full logs its evident i destroyed it a few minutes after he said that - this evidence is fabricated and manipulative
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There are too many externalities here. I don’t want to have to dig deep into this myself, this user should have been suspended the first time he built the swastika (if he did), but he wasn’t. That is pure negligence.
As such I vouch for this users return to MB and I urge the ECD to suspend MBs instantly if this occurs again, so as to avoid confusion.
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↩ RedEastWood this user should have been suspended the first time he built the swastika
the only reason why he was not was due to the lack of any coreprotect data on the build, and the 2nd one was pretty close to the 3rd one, and so the 3rd ones happened while i was making this post
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↩ DragonSlayer2189 and the 2nd one was pretty close to the 3rd one
What do you mean by this? Do you mean close in terms of resemblance or in terms of timing?
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↩ RedEastWood timing, as i was writting this post, which i had started writing after the 2nd swastika, the 3rd one happened
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↩ DragonSlayer2189 I assume you have a picture of the second swastika then?
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↩ DragonSlayer2189 weird that not even i know of a third one
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What's not considered is the builder's intent, those two images in the original post don't even look like swastikas nor the builder was intending to build one. Even if for some reason you think this user has malicious intent, building swastikas is a section 3j offense in the server conduct policy, because it is technically hate speech and nowhere in the server conduct policy explicitly says that building swastikas aren't allowed. DragonSlayer was just too ban happy at the time and quickly jumped the gun for something so small. Malicious intent or not, this user should be unbanned and re-added to MB because of the severity of his crimes (or rather lack of)
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↩ characterslimits building swastikas is a section 3j offense in the server conduct policy, because it is technically hate speech and nowhere in the server conduct policy explicitly says that building swastikas aren't allowed.
whether it is allowed by the conduct policy isn't the problem in this thread, MB policy clearly states
Quote2b. Creating builds which could be seen as offensive to others (e.g. swasticas, builds encouraging racisicm, homophobia, etc.)
and these are the grounds that they were suspended on.
QuoteDragonSlayer was just too ban happy at the time and quickly jumped the gun for something so small.
As for this, before I took any action I asked the other admins on the server at the time if they thought the builds were punishable, and they thought that it was. so, they got banned
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Also heres what the first one looked like:
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↩ DragonSlayer2189 The top and middle pictures look like some incomplete piston trapdoor. The bottom image is just some redstone
Are you going to start banning MBs for using redstone if they're not redstone MBs?
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↩ characterslimits with all due respect I'm not having you sit here and say there's nothing wrong with the above images - they're both pretty fucking clearly swastikas. It doesn't take much thought.
Stop trying to twist what we're saying to make it look like he's suspended someone for nothing.
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