I'm going to be honest, I'm not terribly fond of the corporate direction TF is heading. However, the one thing I will give this direction a huge amount of credit for is the fact that under Ryan's ownership, we have not had a case of smartnt #2 because of how professional things have become. I would pick an owner who prevents corruption by being more professional over anything else because of this.

↩  heliumpluto This hostility is what gives TF a bad name. I know you don't like the guy, but this isn't necessary.

Well, there goes the need for an ID.

I'm going to repeat what I said in another thread:

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↩  videogamesm12 I must note that Discord actually doesn’t care too much about accounts created when the owner was a minor but now isn’t. When they started requiring date of birth to access NSFW channels back in 2019-2021 (which usually leads to an account deletion if you give it information that makes it think it’s 12), I ended up putting my date of birth in and it didn’t give a shit.

If Discord doesn't give a shit about it, then neither should we.

↩  Zarcana I live in a state with lots of mountains.

Cold as balls. I had to break out my trenchcoat today because of all the snow.

↩  erin I presume we could link them together using Webhooks.

So... water?

Name of event:
Scambaiting

Prerequisites:

• A convincing-looking VM*, filled with booby trapped documents
• A VoIP service that isn't blocked by scammer numbers
• A list of scammer phone numbers to dial

*=If running Windows, the VM should contain a shitton of bloatware, adware, and booby traps. If running Linux, install an old unstable version of Wine so that any known graphical glitches or stability issues confuse the fuck out of the scammer.

Server best fit:
None. The event would be over Discord.

Ideal minimum players to start:
At least 5 users.

How it will work:
Users take turns calling up tech support scammers using VoIP services and try to either waste as much of the scammers' time as possible or piss them off using VMs they set up. This would occur in a Discord voice channel or stage.

Rules:

• Don't do anything illegal

Prizes:
One hell of a night for everyone

I must note that Discord actually doesn't care too much about accounts created when the owner was a minor but now isn't. When they started requiring date of birth to access NSFW channels back in 2019-2021 (which usually leads to an account deletion if you give it information that makes it think it's 12), I ended up putting my date of birth in and it didn't give a shit.

So quick question. What if your account is several years old but was made like months before you turned 13? Do you still get indefinitely banned from the Discord for something you did years ago?

This is a large collection of messages from the original Discord server, containing messages from February 2016 to July 2019.

The original Discord server was created by Ryan all the way back in early 2016. At the time, Skype was still a very popular way for admins to communicate with eachother. There used to be group chats full of admins where everybody would just hang out. As Discord became more prominent, the popularity of Skype declined quickly. The Discord server itself would evolve over time, with a NSFW channel existing (and then being removed) and at some point, a bridge between the Minecraft server and the Discord server was added (a key part of the server nowadays). Unfortunately, in October 2020 it was deleted by Seth alongside the server and both forums (ProBoards and Flarum).

Download: https://archive.org/details/to…discord-july2019dump-json

The evidence has shown that it has been a year since Noah was banned for being 12 years old. He is 13, and all signs point to it. There is no reason to keep him banned, nor is there a reason for him to present an ID. Not only that, but as Erin said, he decided to play things honestly by appealing. Objectively, an unban is the route that makes the most sense.

I am on the verge of making a leap of faith by unbanning Noah myself, but this is also something I know I will get hell for, which is why doing it is very much out of my comfort zone. So, I'm going to ask one last time -- please reconsider your decision in the face of evidence and community-wide support, before I break out of my comfort zone to do what I feel is necessary.

The TwitterBot was a bot on Twitter that admins could use to verify on the server. It served similar roles to that of the Discord bot. It was introduced in January 2013 and killed off in mid-2014. The account (along with its many tweets) itself still remain on the site in a dormant state. I decided to datamine its tweets for statistics.

Mentions

It's clear that many more tweets used to exist, but have since been lost to the sands of time. This set of data is for tweets that still exist.

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Total: 273

superme: 265

Other: 8

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2015-09: 1
2014-10: 1
2014-08: 2
2014-07: 2
2014-06: 19
2014-05: 26
2014-04: 27
2014-03: 28
2014-02: 23
2014-01: 16
2013-12: 19
2013-11: 4
2013-10: 8
2013-09: 8
2013-08: 17
2013-07: 9
2013-06: 12
2013-05: 18
2013-04: 17
2013-03: 16

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Total: 3756
Failed Verifications: 1
Successful Verifications: 789
Downtime (Mark): 1747
Downtime (Other): 1217
Other: 2

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2015-09: 1
2014-08: 2
2014-07: 2
2014-06: 135
2014-05: 95
2014-04: 245
2014-03: 265
2014-02: 144
2014-01: 285
2013-12: 218
2013-11: 118
2013-10: 298
2013-09: 308
2013-08: 231
2013-07: 280
2013-06: 757
2013-05: 183
2013-04: 95
2013-03: 43
2013-02: 28
2013-01: 23

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Longest downtime per month

Numerical data is in the form of minutes.

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2013-01: 10
2013-02: 10
2013-03: 10
2013-04: 100
2013-05: 170
2013-06: 340
2013-07: 260
2013-08: 240
2013-09: 300
2013-10: 470
2013-11: 120
2013-12: 100
2014-01: 370
2014-02: 220
2014-03: 150
2014-04: 240
2014-05: 10
2014-06: 190
2014-07: 10
2014-08: 10

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2014-06: 1375
2014-04: 2525
2014-03: 18475
2014-02: 15825
2014-01: 13625
2013-12: 10225
2013-11: 7875
2013-10: 6175
2013-09: 7775
2013-08: 5475
2013-07: 2575
2013-06: 325
2013-05: 175
2013-04: 100
2013-03: 25
2013-02: 25
2013-01: 25

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2014-06: 48
2014-05: 92
2014-04: 80
2014-03: 73
2014-02: 53
2014-01: 76
2013-12: 101
2013-11: 31
2013-10: 30
2013-09: 26
2013-08: 38
2013-07: 38
2013-06: 37
2013-05: 21
2013-04: 21
2013-03: 24

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@CrafterSmith12: 56
@EmpMeltdown: 28
@VideoGameCraft: 2
@Boo1852: 6
@RyanK1212: 10
@vj13573: 8
@DeerPoo: 19
@UrmommaJ: 5
@JoshuaNinjaa: 35
@KieranMC1233: 21
Sardenarin: 6
@PurpleWirez: 24
@Obi2kanobi: 13
@Exogenesis233: 61
@Bloopiiee: 7
@DarleneJRA: 17
@maloukos1: 104
@wolfdepthplay: 4
@DillonPerks: 20
@ptatozgunaptate: 3
@KingDTFSA: 35
@JacobMarron1: 27
@SaigoKatana: 9
@Micro_MiniMouse: 2
@ShadowTFSA: 2
@TXGGamer: 12
@lynxlps: 1
@LOLZ3842: 13
@JamelBroadway: 8
@RawCookieChop: 8
@SwampyJoe: 1
@MC_BazzLa: 16
@polarboy331: 8
@_Bloopster: 4
@wisemagick12: 1
MEGAF4IL: 4
@Crashanator101: 2
wild1145: 16
@TEENTEXTSWAGMOM: 4
@xxdidixx3: 4
@Firestar_Drew: 24
@KingDragonRider: 3
@rubihube99: 1
@LindsayHai: 4
@DynaDubMaster: 3
@Yoshi4MC: 2
@infamas97: 10
@buildcarter8: 5
@MrNintendoguy1: 8
@geckey24: 3
TheCJGCJG: 10
@hawkeyeshi: 11
@46601351: 6
@RossFrehill: 8
@classyjakey1: 1
@Mysticraft_Inc: 21
@slayerstickylol: 5
@Speedcrafter11: 2
@MCJyro47: 12
@Flufasaurus_Rex: 1
@JeromSar: 15
@apres1234: 1
Paldiu: 3
@MinecraftNerd24: 2
@disaster839: 1
@WickedGamingUK: 1

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Is there not a reason for this to be possible with the freedom gamemode?

Noah was banned sometime in late 2020 (October to November 2020) shortly after Ryan took over as the owner. This is confirmed by multiple messages from him from the time period where he repeatedly mentioned that he was banned from the Discord.

2020-11-04-1.log

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[16:19:16] [JDA MainWS-ReadThread/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] [Discord] Rian: let me go to the post
[16:19:19] [JDA MainWS-ReadThread/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] [Discord] Rian: according to neat
[16:19:31] [JDA MainWS-ReadThread/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] [Discord] Rian: this is excels build
[16:19:53] [JDA MainWS-ReadThread/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] [Discord] Rian: then there's neats (noahs)
[16:20:14] [JDA MainWS-ReadThread/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] [Discord] Rian: look in discord
[16:20:16] [JDA MainWS-ReadThread/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] [Discord] Rian: i sent images
[16:20:23] [Async Chat Thread - #185/INFO]: [•••] noah » im banned on it, also you didnt otherwise itd say [Media]

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[16:54:24] [JDA MainWS-ReadThread/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] [Discord] SolleeRockee: check discord for image
[16:54:52] [Async Chat Thread - #0/INFO]: [•••] noah » I AM BANNED FROM THE DISCORD FUCKING IDIOT
[16:55:02] [JDA MainWS-ReadThread/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] [Discord] SolleeRockee: but the judge isn't
[16:55:10] [Async Chat Thread - #0/INFO]: [•••] noah » true but i cant see if he doesnt want it

Around the same time as the first set of logs, the ESL at the time, Darth, also noted Noah's age being 12.

2020-11-07-1.log

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[16:44:07] [Async Chat Thread - #384/INFO]: [•••] noah » Trump needs to pay me in turnips before i vote for him
[16:44:16] [JDA MainWS-ReadThread/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] [Discord] [Exec] Amon: Noah, you're 12
[16:44:24] [JDA MainWS-ReadThread/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] [Discord] [Exec] Amon: You can't vote for years

These logs were from late 2020, when he actually was 12. It's now December 2021, and we're nearing the end of the year. If we take basic mathematics, we realize that it has been more than 1 year since he was banned. 12 + 1 = 13. There is literally no need for him to provide an ID when time itself proves his age for us.

Vouch.

This goes against the foundation of the server.

Object.

↩ @'r00t' You ruined the joke.

↩  erin This should be escalated into a more serious sanction.

Vouch.

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↩  characterslimits You only want to switch because of nostalgia.

I want to switch back because this forum has been incredibly unreliable for us, in contrast with ProBoards which has been known to be extremely reliable and has features built-in which aren't available on Flarum without installing dangerously insecure extensions. We literally had to spend a few days reinstalling this forum software at some point because the frontend somehow managed to kill itself, which crippled the entirety of the forum. This never happened on ProBoards. I'm not saying we should switch back for the nostalgia, I'm saying we should switch back because we have less features and more stability issues with Flarum than with ProBoards.

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↩  characterslimits Forced advertisements

Every website has this nowadays. It's what keeps ProBoards going for free.

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↩  characterslimits additionally it makes our community less child-friendly, kids will start accidently buying virtual items on the forum with real-life money as they don’t know the concept of money

We had been using ProBoards for nearly 8 years and not once did we have an incident like this, even when most of the forum's userbase was under the age of 18. Kids can be stupid, but they have common sense too.

In the long term, ProBoards is actually beneficial to us because it introduces a third party who maintains the forum for us, so in case something happens with Ryan, we aren't utterly fucked. It's literally what saved our asses when Windows vanished back in 2018/2019.