Posts by RedEastWood

  • Dragon

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    @SupItsDillon#2126 can you stop insinuating that he may be Nathaniel, I know it’s not just you but at the end of the day, if he’s made a new identity and is keeping out of trouble, I don’t see what is wrong.

    This is ridiculous. If someone gets banned, they can’t just make a new identity and come back and be nice. It’s the same logic as if I commit a crime, move a different country, and be nice to everyone - it’s simply not pragmatic or logical.


    If Anthony really is Nathaniel - I would expect him to be banned almost immediately, and rightfully so.

  • AshazTGA Suggestion

    Hello everyone. My name is AshazTGA, and I've got a suggestion for the appeal system.


    At the moment, there is no way to appeal by email. However, what's the point in preparing an email for this system? Why not make it so all forum banned users can post an appeal in the ban appeal section? That way even if they're banned in-game, they can still appeal too.


    By the way, for y'all that are worrying, no this is not gonna help me right now and I won't be appealing the sanction any time soon. But it will make our system much more efficient, in my opinion.


    Thanks!

  • Discord Ban Appeal on behalf of AshazTGA

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    @fssp#2099 if appealing a ban from a video game server necessitates an unbroken vow of allegiance is foolish. It is equally foolish to compare the usage of the word "swear" as a social contract for a ban appeal, serving the purpose of gathering a player's intentions, to the swearing in of the President of the United States. Made me laugh, though.

    God it’s like talking to a cardboard box - the point I was trying to make here is that the word "swear" can be interpreted in different ways, and Ashaz interpreted it in a way different to you. That’s all this is. You said that the word "swear" only had partial connotations of an oath - and I disproved it by saying that one of the most important jobs in the world (US President) requires the president elect to "swear in". This proves that the word "swear" does have strong connotations of taking an oath. Just because someone interprets something different to you doesn’t mean it’s foolish. You are making this argument unnecessarily long by nit-picking what I say and refusing to actually understand my point.


    Luke is right, this is a silly conversation especially since we keep going in circles. I don’t expect further replies regarding this matter, as in my eyes it has been dealt with.

  • Discord Ban Appeal on behalf of AshazTGA

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    @fssp#2030 Except that you're conflating the meaning of "swearing" upon a deity or higher power with the contemporary usage of "swear" as a social transaction of undertaking to comply with a particular set of rules, the second context being that which this appeal requests of applicants. The word "swear" varies between blind affirmation and the act of "swearing by" to the casual taking of a promise to the effect of good conduct.

    I have made it very clear that this is what I was doing - and rightfully so. For the seventh time, interpret the word as you wish, not everybody thinks like you. The fact that you are arguing over how someone could perceive a word is shocking, especially since the word "swear" has connotations that are much more grounded than other "partial connotations" you mentioned. The US president literally has a swearing in ceremony, where they say that they solemnly swear.


    As for leaving this here, I meant that I was not going to respond any more as this useless argument was taking too much of my time, especially since you fail to see any rhyme or reason that isn’t your own.

  • Admin Application - James

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    @SupItsDillon#1980 Going to object under the basis that the user has only been active on the server for just over 1hr 20mins in the past 30 days.


    @James#1977 I also help Ryan run the behind the scenes of things with the TF server anyway and would like to become more involved with the server.

    He helps run TF server side.

  • Discord Ban Appeal on behalf of AshazTGA

    @fssp#1966 So from all of this, it still stands that Ashaz is unable to swear on something casually as it is frowned upon, and also unable to swear (take an oath) as he is not a "sane individual" yet.
    Boiling down your long post the only new information you've added is that the application doesn't call for any oath on anyone - however that is your interpretation of the word "swear". Personally, I would take that as a casual oath (something which is frowned upon in Islam). So it is perfectly fine for Ashaz to not want to swear. Instead they have promised, and according to what you've said, a promise should be sufficient. Your issue was that they didn't "swear" and you think they made a "joke about god", which simply isn't true.

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    @fssp#1968 Neither a religious oath nor the act of swearing to/on someone is requested by the ban appeal template


    @Luke#1634 and swear to never do whatever you did again

    You can interpret the template as you please, but the word swear does have connotations of an oath and bounding agreement - therefor making it completely valid for Ashaz to be unwilling to swear.

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    @fssp#1966 This is false, and an intellectually dishonest method of discrediting my original post without providing any real substance to that effect.

    It isn't false because in Islam it is frowned upon to "swear to something". You assumed it wasn't.


    I'm going to leave it at that as this argument has already taken up enough of my time, and yours too.

  • Discord Ban Appeal on behalf of AshazTGA

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    @Miwojedk#1932 Your sources do not dispute what I said at all.

    Literally the first paragraph of my first source


    I have heard a lot of Muslims say “I swear on my children that .. ” or ” I swear on my mother .. “. According to Islam, it is unlawful to take an oath by anyone except Allah (SWT). You can only swear by Allah. So, if you want to take an oath by something then take an oath by Allah (“I swear by Allah” or “wallahi” or “wallahi”).

  • Discord Ban Appeal on behalf of AshazTGA

    I will have to object for now, I don’t think it’s been long enough and while I do understand it was a joke, your self-nihilistic and self-destructive behaviour is sure to return when you come back. I think you need to understand what you want from TF and what it can realistically give you.

  • Discord Ban Appeal on behalf of AshazTGA

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    @fssp#1915 I believe this section of your appeal signifies the attitude of general disregard which has prompted me to be dismissive of your request to be unbanned, because it appears to make a mockery of the faith in order to transact a cheap joke,

    It is not a mockery of faith - many religions frown upon swearing to god or the like. I know that Ashaz is Muslim, and the Quran is vague on the laws of oath and swearing on things. It states that Allah would never allow any of his workers to take an oath that inhibited them from performing good deeds, avoiding bad deeds or causing bad deeds.
    An oath here is also defined as a casual pledge.


    However, the Quran forbids children from taking oaths, making Ashaz "swearing" haram. So in reality Ashaz was not attempting to make a cheap joke, but rather you have assumed that every religion has the same laws of taking oaths.


    http://moazzam-khan.com/oaths-in-islam/
    https://www.al-islam.org/simpl…fi-golpaygani/taking-oath