Posts by RedEastWood

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      videogamesm12 Not really. It's suggesting to add more items to the shop, implying that there isn't much to do. It has nothing to do with getting users to vote

    Users vote to get coins. They use coins to pay for items in the shop. I’m not really getting your line of reasoning here, because you’re effectively proving my point for me. If new items are added to the shop, players will need to vote to be able to pay for the items and obtain them using coins. Voting gives you the greatest yield of coins in the shortest amount of time. Doing reactions does not give you nearly as many, and events are sparse.

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      videogamesm12 You could get a million votes per day and all the exposure you want, but if players have nothing to do then there is zero point in continuing to play on the server, which reflects on the low player count quite considerably.

    This isn’t a never heard of problem. As I’ve mentioned countless times, it has been discussed and no solution has been offered


    So I ask you this, what exactly is it that you want? Has what you want already been asked/discussed? I’m trying to understand but all you’re saying is “we need to unblock commands”, as if every player on this server doesn’t know that already.

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      videogamesm12 We should be focusing on unblocking existing features, not wasting development work by adding cheap gags

    Then do it? You’re a developer, so why don’t you? Miwo made his thread 7 months ago. The issues are still the exact same. The same issues were around for much longer than 7 months too, Miwo just decided to call out the issues. The fact is by simply saying “we should unblock commands” you aren’t actually contributing much, especially since your stance has been discussed many times, and each time it ended with no real resolution.


    I also do not think you understand the point of this suggestion. This suggestion is to get players to vote. It is not just a new feature. Players need an incentive to vote, and this is it. How on earth is unblocking commands even vaguely related to incentive to vote? Unless you’re looking to make unblocked commands purchasable by coins, then I see no real value in your response to my suggestion. The more votes we get, the more exposure we get. More perks and “cheap gags” will give us more votes. Unblocking commands will not give us more votes, so I don’t deem it fit to be discussed as a counter to my suggestion. Completely different scenarios and contexts.

      videogamesm12 I don't understand your point.

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      videogamesm12 So what?

    So we are doing all we can without being shut down. If we have propsed solutions and been denied, what do you expect us to do?

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      videogamesm12 On a side note, the reason not much has changed is because nobody has stepped up and taken action on many of these issues. People talk about wanting things to change, but never actually set their foot down and work to have said change occur. People need to do that more.

    Not really, the reason not much has changed is because the dev team have 200 pending tasks, and Ryan is far from keen to add to that.

      videogamesm12 Because we have attempted to and been shut down at every opportunity. Miwo’s post here touched on every way our freedom is limited, and nothing came of it. Simply saying we should expand on freedom holds no value, suggesting methods of implementation is better but it has been done before and been denied.


    The post was very well written with a viable solution to the majority of TF’s limitations - yet we are still in the exact same situation we are in when the post was written 7 months ago.

    Waiting on @"Fleek"#188 and @"Ryan"#1 to comment on the dev side of this. If they deem it viable then I would look to approve this suggestion (after conferring with the ECM) with this mindset -

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      Darth What if we gave all players the command to access particle type A and B, and particle formation C and D - possibly rotating which types are available to all players each week to keep it fresh - but put particle type X, Y, and Z, etc in the shop for people to buy.

    @Miwojedk#19881 I believe that in order to make a truly informed decision on a user, the voter would need to have first hand observations which would ideally require them to be active. While the scenario a significantly inactive user votes is rare, it has occurred on this application. The severity of their inactivity should be noted, they have come out of whatever cave they have been hiding in for the last 6 months solely to vote on this application. I’m inclined to believe this is the result of UnderTails DMing inactive players to vouch on his application. I don’t have substantial evidence for that though, so I won’t take any action or dwell on it for too long. I hope UnderTails responds to these accusations soon though.

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    @Miwojedk#19881 even if the applicant asked them to vote on the application.

    In this instance, I believe the applicant is abusing the fact that the inactive voter doesn’t actually care about the outcome of the application. I'm aware that my stance is an overtly pessimistic one, but given other information that has been brought to light in this thread, I think it is the most realistic.

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    @Miwojedk#19881 Only thing to prevent this would be to requrie a minimum of recent activity on the forum / server in order to vote, but I would personally think that this would end up being convoluted / bureaucratic.

    That would be too complicated, you’re right - which is why no action is being taken against these inactive voters as Ryan says here

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    @wild1145#19796 And any user on the forums with an account over 30 days old can place a vote. It's as simple as that.

    My personal opinion is heavily based on the fact that these inactive users did not specify any reason for vouching, instead they simply said "vouch". Had there been actual justification, I would have felt more secure with the fact that they are genuine vouches based on informed decisions.

    I think we should systematically go through exactly what's just been disabled, find the exploit related to the disabled command, and work AROUND the exploit rather than just remove the command entirely. There are a solid handful of commands that have just been blocked in an attempt to quickly remedy an exploit, perhaps now is the time to revisit all of them.

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    @burger#19770 There is no real hard evidence this is the case but it wouldn't be the first time I have seen it. I think we need to hear a response from @UnderTails to properly understand what he has or hasn't asked in dms.

    I have been told of a few players who vouched on this application who haven’t played on the server in a significant amount of time. They are real players, but are very very inactive.