I think my final straw with you was when you tried to blame me for those comments on the Anarchy+ discord. I thought there was a limit to your antics, and the limit was friends. Clearly not.
https://forum.totalfreedom.me/…scord-ban-appeal-shdwo/17
I object.
↩ @'kanst' You then announced to the entire server that you were hosting an “egg throwing event” where everyone throws eggs at Aqua, who was caged.
Is that accurate?
I appreciate you taking the time to apologise. While not everyone may accept it, it’s a very good start.
Quote
Yes, I don’t even think you read my whole post.
I clearly say I think he should have disabled teleportation, and so does Yurni. If there isn’t a rule for it, then we should discuss it..?
Fwiw i 100% agree with you though, it should be mandatory. Perhaps a separate suggestion could be opened.
Quote↩ @' 5 ' he is motivated, but doesn’t think through his actions.
I agree
Quote↩ @' 5 ' because he seemed to think it was policy that since yurni was attracting attention, players should not be able to easily find NSFW builds by teleporting to them.
It would be a nice gesture to disable TP, but I agree it is not mandatory. I don’t think Noah knew this. I agree that he would need to be trained, which is why admin training exists.
Quote↩ @' 5 ' noah is inclined to talk shit behind people’s backs. noah, i saw your “forum dweller” message in chat
A lot of people here talk shit behind people’s backs (including you for what it’s worth). This seems personal. I agree that Noah can compose himself better in public, but we all can.
After much deliberation with myself and weighing up both sides of the argument, I have decided to
Quote!vouch. I am sure your exploit skills will come in handy at some point. Just don‘t crash the server again, you can’t do that anymore if you become an admin.
↩ @'wxtermelon' made way back when Shdwo was my assistant https://linktr.ee/totalfreedom
it is very easy to add more links to that would just need to know which ones
i think the original suggestion was to basically put that style on a tf owned domain
Vouch, despite your eagerness (which is justified given your explanation) you haven’t given me any reason to object on this reinstatement.
Quote↩ @'Miasmus.' Could be reading this wrong,
You did not read that wrong, he paid that in cash.
He definitely had that much at hand (maybe he had to liquidate a few assets but at the end of the day he was able to so it doesn’t matter).
That is an incredible amount of money, and it definitely could have been used for the benefit of society. That being said, if Elon does not want to do that, do you think he should be forced? Not saying that’s what you’re arguing for, just interested.
Edit - Did some research, and Elon does not have 21 billion cash to hand. People are still speculating how exactly he will acquire this money. The general consensus is that he will bring in outside investors. The point is moot.
Quote↩ @'Miasmus.' (For billionares+, I’d imagine sums \~ 50% of their wealth)
This is a common misconception. Billionaires do not have their wealth in cash. Neither do millionaires (most of them at least?). Their money is tied up in stocks, bonds, investments, properties, etc. In order to liquidate (convert those things into payable cash), someone else needs to buy them. We are therefor put in the exact same situation as before.
For certain savings products such as stocks, bonds and investments, these can be transferred to other people. The issue still remains of actually selling the stocks (which requires someone else to buy them).
Furthermore, the majority (?) of Elon’s wealth is tied up in Tesla and SpaceX stock. Giving away or liquidating this stock will almost certainly tank his company on NASDAQ.
It’s a lot more difficult than just “oh give away half of your wealth”.
You seem very eager to get admin back. Your first line of your introduction blatantly expressed your sole intention of wanting to get back your position. You made this post not 30 minutes after Video commented that you were now eligible to reinstate.
What’s the hurry?
↩ Miwojedk I do not pay “real” taxes yet (income tax, capital gains etc).
I do not have a say in how much tax I pay, but I read the Exchequer’s red box every year and understand why taxes are the way they are. People who complain about the taxation assume the government has infinite money to solve hard-hitting problems (such as the post covid recovery we are facing now, or Ukraine). I accept that some governments overcharge for no good reason, but I believe mine does not.
The difference is though, taxes are paid for collective gain and gain that I can see with my own eyes. I do not mind paying taxes because the city I live in is well developed, the country is well-funded and first world. Elon’s wealth is not comparable because if he did choose to give money away, it would not benefit him at all. He doesn’t owe anyone anything at the end of the day - I’m sure when he was not a billionaire this same discussion was going on. Incredibly wealthy people aren’t new and the sentiment of collective wealth is hardly new either, education and political awareness has just shot it into main discussions.
My overall point is that your alluding to my inability to decide my taxes is the same as Elon’s inability to choose what to do with his money is not a good comparison. I also made the point that this conversation has been going on for centuries , and that nothing will realistically change.
Quote↩ @'anemone' ride his rockets
Who is riding his rockets 😭
Quote↩ Folfy_Blue Probably taxes proportional to income (Like steps? From x to y, we tax xx of your income, from y to z, we tax yy of your income, from z to α, zz% etc..)
If I understand this correctly, this is already how the UK taxation system works. We have tax bands, you pay the % of tax for that specific tax band. Wealthy earners are taxed a whopping 40%.
Quote↩ Folfy_Blue alongside a heavy tax on wealth upon reaching a certain threshold.
What if Elon, the person who worked for this money (im sure you’ve heard stories of his work ethic), does not want to share his money? Should he have no say in this?
I agree that it is an insane amount of money for just one person to have, but had someone else exploited and foresaw the rise of internet payments (PayPal), and space exploration (spacex), they would have been just as successful. In the same way, right now people should be focusing on innovating artificial intelligence as that is the future.
Quote↩ @'anemone' you can’t say he doesn’t deserve it.. just because he’s rich. That’s poor mentality
Nobody here thinks Elon does not deserve it (or so i think). He definitely deserves the money. The question is about whether he should be allowed to have such a staggering amount of money.
↩ Folfy_Blue What alternative would you propose?
Quote
I’m sure you must have seen the discussion regarding this on discord. The only reason I accepted you actively using exploits/causing issues with the server was because I was told you were given explicit permission from a member of staff.
Why did you do this without permission?
