Posts by UnderTails

  • Let master builders paste NBT

    @Luke#15201


    I was not the one who made this thread, but a reminder of this reignited my passion for this issue, and how angry I have been about it in the past


    I kept arguing because I felt Ryan was wrong.


    Thats my answer.

  • add /sudo

    @Ivan#15130 this thread got 47 replies we weren’t arguing about the existence of the command we got off topic and argued about the circumstances of griefs and shit.

  • NBT Paste discussion

    Brainstorm your ideas on how we can safely reenable nbt paste for everyone here.


    I think we all want it reenabled but Ryan says nobody has thought of any good way.


    Lets think of a good way here.


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  • Let master builders paste NBT

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    @wild1145#15106 Some OP's have one set of permissions, and another set of OP's have slightly more permissions... I'm not sure how else I can explain it... And actually yes, I suspect a number of OP's would be pretty pissed and end up applying for the title as you've said, just to have the perms... Defeating the point of the title.

    I think OPs are more confused and mad when they find out MBs don’t have these rights already and would be more confused that MBs are the same thing as OP in your definition. They think there’s a hierarchy even though you want there not to be even though there is. Which doesn’t make sense but that’s the point

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    @wild1145#15106 MB's can be appointed by the ECD without any formal application / process... The application process again is a relatively new thing in the scheme of things, my point is there is a set known quantity with how admin applications work and are processed, and they ultimately come via me for changes directly or indirectly, that process is not at all the same for the MB processes.

    There are currently no MBs appointed by the ECD defeating the whole point of this. MB applications are tougher than admin applications because you’re at the judgement of the whole server if your builds are good enough.

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    @wild1145#15106 I believe you should have the same permissions as every other OP on the FreeOP Server, and any additional tools / plugins / perms you need should be only configured on a dedicated project build server, which is exactly the model we moved to.

    Not having nbt paste is making MBs not able to complete their job on the main server because we can’t complete our jobs properly for events or other dedicated projects on the main server. We do it all the time. I’ve built a build battle hub, a spleef arena, and many more


    bowie built an entire easter egg hunt map, and we do this type of thing all the time.

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    @wild1145#15107 UnderTails I'm not blaming you or anyone else, I'm giving you my perspective on things... That's all I can do, I tell the exec's to something, I expect it sorted out. If that message isn't passed down then that's equally not something I can mind read...

    Is there even any ECD right now? We had weekly meetings in october and november about the hub project but ever since then nobody has asked us to build anything. And the master builder announcements in discord has been empty.

  • Let master builders paste NBT

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    @wild1145#15099 Also for the record, this was the message I sent to the ECD and AECD back at the start of Jan before we removed the festive hub, because I was waiting on the MB Team to make changes on the server I'd given them which had been made on the festive hub. I haven't given any more work since then given I am STILL waiting for this to be done...

    it has never been announced in the mb section of the discord so you can blame the ECD for not us.

  • Let master builders paste NBT

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    @wild1145#15098 Yes, it literally is, I don't understand why you're not getting that? And I disagree, I think it is a significant shift in our historic position as a server, and is absolutely not something I will encourage, endorse or allow.

    How? Is an OP going to see an MB properly pasting a chest or a banner and cry? No. Is it a permission everyone should have yes? Is it a permission everyone has? No. If anyone should have NBT paste it should be the builders

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    @wild1145#15098 I never disagreed with that, if you'd read my replies in full, you'd note I mentioned that as an exception to the rule. Long term that will be moved out of the FreeOP server, and you'll have no additional perms beyond that of a standard op in FreeOP servers.

    ???

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    @wild1145#15098 Yet nobody's ever asked for it, or gave a solution on how we could make it happen...
    This has been asked for many times, but i’ll make a new thread for brainstorming ideas since you think it’s never been done.


    Also again, go back and read my replies, it's trivial to get MB Compared to admin, there are no official and managed requirements, and it's at the total wim of who ever the ECD happens to be at the time.

    MB has no requirements? You need to be a good builder which is a skill not that many minecraft players have. What are the requirements for admin? The requirements are being a player on here and not being hated by

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    @wild1145#15098 And as I've said, MB's need no such access to complete their role as an MB, we have dedicated build servers for that exact reason.

    This is not true. Do you believe that MBs solely work in the other server? I get requested all the time by admins to help them build stuff for events, and I could use nbt paste to help me in my job of that

  • Let master builders paste NBT

    @wild1145#15092 the mbs built a whole hub for the server which we did in a span of a month


    That isn’t nothing.


    we haven’t been given any new projects in the past 6 months to do,


    Because you haven’t requested any.


    giving mbs nbt paste isn’t going to divide the server into a hierarchy, nor is it even that big of a deal


    mbs are just ops, but ops who work for the server in building for it, and who have our own world only we can use.


    we all want ops to have nbt paste but it’s not looking likely to ever happen


    so until then


    We think mbs deserve this right because they are the builders of this server, and it is not an easy task becoming one which justifies trust, if it doesn’t do it for you in the trust category we should have a different role that takes even more effort to get just so we can have building rights.


    It shouldn’t be that you need to be an admin to have any difference than an op.


    and it shouldn’t be that the official builders of our server need to apply for admin to have these building permissions.


    Read my full response before you reply to this one

  • Let master builders paste NBT

    @wild1145#15090 it’s not a hierarchy, mbs don’t believe were better than normal players we are just players who work hard in building and are given a rank for it along with some more permissions.


    it doesn’t make sense why you think mbs are less trustworthy with nbt


    admins have nbt even though it’s much easier to make an admin application

  • Let master builders paste NBT

    @Shdwo#15086 not true just about all mbs including myself applied for more power back then because we wanted to have //limit -1 and //brush when the normal player base didn’t


    it’s a title and a recognition of trust which should be rewarded with more permissions like it has been in the past

  • Let master builders paste NBT

    @wild1145#15085 well we should have a rank with more building permissions for dedicated builders.


    if that isn’t mb we should make a new rank for it.


    mbs do have more permissions than ops we have our own world.