Posts by wild1145

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      enchy the root cause is saying “my convenience is more important than the lives of others.” this self-centered thinking isnt going to just go away and honestly it cant be fixed. banning abortion is just the best we can do at mitigating its effects.

    I think that's an exceptionally narrow minded view to take on the topic, and I'm disappointed you went straight to "Meh humans bad" rather than use your brain. Let me give you some of the other root causes

    • Cost of living is expensive
    • Raising a child is very expensive
    • Contraception is expensive
    • Contraception fails
    • Humans are horrible and rape is a thing
    • People change their mind

    Banning abortion is not the best we could do, and we should frankly be ashamed as a species we think it's a good idea in the first place.

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      enchy its also protecting lives.

    It isn't. That's been proven time and time again.

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      enchy the government protects life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,

    And this ruling is doing none of those... It's destroying peoples lives, removing liberties and going to cause more people to struggle and not be happy.

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      enchy life is always going to involve suffering. trying to make a life without suffering is pointless. and the possibility of suffering is trumped by the value of human life. if we should end life to prevent suffering, then we would go kill all poor people and all people in third world countries.

    I don't disagree suffering is inevitable, but to go out of your way to make more suffering is inhumane and immoral. Your argument here assumes there is actual life, and I would suggest that at the point we're talking for the majority of abortions, there is no actual life. It's a crap argument and I'm disappointed your not even trying to be understanding of the problem here.

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      enchy because saying “abortions prevent economic hardship” doesnt address the main driving force of why people get abortions.

    It doesn't, but flat out going "No abortion for you" doesn't solve the root cause either, nor does it do anything to address what will almost always happen next as I outlined...

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      enchy you cant ban abortion but still have the choice to have an abortion. if youre talking about adoption, then i agree. and how is it setting the country back hundreds of years by banning abortion? having the right to kill babies is not a sign of progress, its a sign of moral depravity

    And that was my point, pro-choice is fine, and having a personal belief on if abortions are good or bad is absolutely fine, by all means tell people what you believe and give them your side of your belief, however for a government to unilaterally remove that freedom of choice is not evolution or good, it's removing liberties and freedoms.


    We're going back in time because we're removing rights for no good reason, and you're removing the freedom of choice. Having the right to abort is not moral depravity, forcing a child to grow up without parents or being generally unloved is. This encourages the suffering of mother and child, and the child is who will suffer for the many many years to come after if the parent has to just get rid of the child as soon as it's born, which is all this will do. It puts more pressure on an already crippled adoption framework globally, and forces more children to grow up without loving families, how is that morally right?

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      enchy only 20% of abortions are for economic or social reasons. the main reason for getting an abortion is not economic hardship. saying we should keep abortions because its hard financially on the mother is not a good reason because it only applies to ⅕ of abortions.

    Why should it matter why you chose to get an abortion..? And the reality is the cost of living is on the rise and a lot of people don't want to be parents. Why should we force someone to give birth to a child they don't want just to put the child up for adoption? The adoption systems in most countries are already at a breaking point, and a lot of children never end up getting adopted...


    The disappointing thing with this ruling is it is not pro life, it is anti-choice, which is where I personally take issue. By all means you can be pro-life, but you should also be pro-choice imho. If you want to be anti-choice then before banning abortion and setting the country as a whole back hundreds of years find a better solution to deal with the problem you've just created.

    The test forums are updated with the new importer and a number of issues have now been fixed. If people could start reviewing the content available there to see if it looks right, I would appreciate it. I'm going to be getting content sorted throughout today.

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    @' 5 ' my deletions have never been and never will be malicious in any way. i would appreciate your confirmation that you will honor deletions made in good faith, and not because you subjectively think the deleted content is interesting. TF is small, and few members, if any, use edits or deletions dishonestly. with a light amount of skepticism, it should be safe to err on the side of believing edits and deletions were not malicious.

    I'm absolutely not saying yours specifically have been malicious. The difficulty is it interferes with the history and flow of the thread. It's why my view very much is that if people want to be forgotten / not have content attributed to them long term a clean delete of the post without editing (so at least forum mods / admins can see what it used to say) or just deleting you entire forum account is preferable.


    I have no desire to stop people deleting content but we will be able to call it out better on woltlab where content that is removed will have an edit history so we can see what it said when it was first posted and for people that are doing this with the intent of changing the narrative we can course correct it.


    I have no issue with you or anyone deleting content on flarum but I'd suggest for the sake of making mine and the forum staff life easier ceasing the edit before delete would be nice. But I get you may not want to so just be aware on some threads your thoughts and comments may not be taken into account if we don't review the post for days - weeks later.

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      Tizz Anyway, you can’t delete your posts here as well, “deleted” posts are just hidden from non-staff, only forum admins can purge threads permanently.

    That's why he and others edit their posts before deleting them which makes it much more tricky for us to see what it originally said even as forum managers.

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    @' 5 ' i understand you’re directly referencing my tendency to delete my own posts. i feel very offended by your threat to undo my work going forward. you can have my edit history for administrative reasons, but don’t reinstate messages that myself or others intentionally delete without our consent.


    i sympathize with your concerns. i contribute lots of helpful and high-effort content, and each time, i consider if i’ll want to delete it once it no longer serves any utility or relevance. there are posts i intend to leave up forever. previously i’ve retracted very high-effort suggestions before they were acted on. that’s simply because i changed my mind and i want that to be respected. i’m not spamming your board.


    in other words i’m the opposite of an archivist, i don’t want to be remembered when i leave TF. i also don’t intend to be profiled by members of the community based on info I carelessly let accumulate before then. disregarding locked threads, I find it immoral of you to deny me the ability to remove my own content short of requesting a complete takedown.

    Not just you but there are a couple of places where this has happened and it's skewed the content of the thread. Applications for ranks are a prime example where editing or removing content after a decision has been made can cause issues when it's reviewed down the road.


    It also allows us to restore in the event of either malicious / rogue deletions or where people are intentionally modifying their content to skew the narrative of a thread.


    I personally disagree with the way you purge your content and would have simply suggested that when you have had enough of TF, you just burn your forum account which makes your posts non attributable but I equally won't stop you from doing what you do. Though it does mean on longer running threads and discussions your views may not be taken into account when you purge your content... It's happened a few times where I've not reviewed a suggestion / similar for so long that you have got rid of your own content.


    Woltlab will at least allow me to view what it did say and allow me to decide if you or others are changing the narrative in your edited posts to paint someone else in a bad light or if it's just cleaning old content.

    @' 5 ' This is intentional. We don't want people actively going and changing the history on threads especially when they're locked. Woltlab will I believe give us some more moderation visibility to stop people purging or re writing history and us being able to see the edit history so we can restore such content.

    I should clarify one thing events server access is limited to just the events server and always has been. I'm not sure off the top of my head has access but generally the executives in charge of events have the power to add / remove people from panel and file system access now.

    So the Woltlab team have done some digging, turns out Flarum doesn't follow the Markdown standard when it comes to line breaks which is why the formatting looks a bit weird, they have now done some work to try to fix it, but it might break things like code block formatting a bit.


    They have also fixed the issue with replies in Flarum to make it look much much better.


    Given the handful of updates they've made, over the weekend I'll take an updated clone of the prod database and re-run the import on Woltlab to see what it's like, fingers crossed there won't be any other issues.

    You've not provided any evidence of any gdpr violation. You don't have to be able to opt out of telemetry that's a crock of shit.

    I just wanted to update folks because it has indeed been quite some time.


    While you will all be very aware that I have not been quite as inactive as I suspected, I have indeed appreciated some time away to work through a lot of other shit outside of TF.


    I am currently somewhat under the weather, however plan to slowly ramp up my activity back here on TF, and initially will be looking to catch-up on some of the actions that I know have been on Steven's to do list for some time while I'm making my recovery. Fyrsta will continue to look after the overall day to day until I'm back to 100% health.


    On that note, Steven has passed his apologies, he's had some changes in his personal circumstances which has resulted in him having considerably less time to dedicate to TF than he would normally have.


    Thank you all for your understanding while I took a break, and thank you for your understanding while I'm not feeling 100% at the current time.

    Just to let folks know, we've made it possible for 1.19 clients to now join the network. You will still need to join on a 1.17 client or later, and the majority of the servers are still either 1.16 or 1.17 servers, so newer blocks won't yet work.


    We will be withdrawing support for 1.17 clients in the near future as we will start to update servers to 1.18 and 1.19 across the network, though a separate announcement will come for that in due course.


    Cheers all.

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      Fyrsta Line breaks don’t appear to copy across too well, e.g. https://woltlab-test.totalfree…ead/4260-a-break-from-me/ is missing the line breaks between paragraphs, not a huge thing, but a nice to have if possible.


      Telesphoreo This thread didn’t copy over exactly: https://woltlab-test.totalfree…ad/4409-plex-1-1-released


    Seems as if it’s missing some returns

    Let me see if I can figure out what's causing that, as it seems to be far from consistent so not sure if it's something in the way Flarum renders the content / stores it or if the import script is fucky.

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      Fyrsta Profile pictures don’t appear to copy over but that’s not really the end of the world.

    Yes, I think I'm happy with that, it's not a big deal and given Woltlab has more profile customisation anyway, probably makes sense to let people customise their profiles how they like.

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      Fyrsta @ ing users doesn’t appear to be consistent. Take a look at https://woltlab-test.totalfree…forum-migration-feedback/ for example, you have things like   Allink - just a guess, but it could be something to do with display vs user names perhaps. E.g. wild1145 is showing up fine, but @'Ryan' doesn’t.

    So that's just a flarum thing, the @'s with a # on it is @'ing a specific post, rather than the user, Woltlab doesn't have a concept of that because you'd just use quotes like a normal human being. It's just a case that when you reply to people or quote people on Flarum it'll do this, and Woltlab doesn't have a way to handle it, I'll raise it with them and see if they have a suggested behaviour but I'm not sure what I'd do other than potentially quote the tagged post instead?

    Can I ask one final time for people to do a check of imported content, Woltlab are going to be putting this importer into GA with their next release of the suite, and as soon as they do that we'll be looking to migrate over pretty shortly after. I really do need people to have a look and flag any other issues with the content that we migrated across from these forums.

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      Folfy_Blue A few of Flarum’s markdown are missing from wotlab, notably the center and size tags, is this a possible fix? See:


    Flarum markdown post on woltlab
    Other example of the two tags not working

    So this has been fixed in the latest version of the migration tool, I haven't ran it through yet but they've come back with the following comments

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    I didn't realize that Flarum supported both Markdown and BBCodes. But sure we can migrate those across.


    Note, that this specific tag is invalid in both Flarum and WoltLab Suite. The minimum size for both is 8. I've added support to the importer by converting the Flarum sizes into the smallest WoltLab Suite size that is equal or greater.