Posts by wild1145

    I'm going to do some minor updates across the network tomorrow, this will primarily be to bring the Paper version up to date and unified across the network as we've now got a few versions running everywhere.


    For the hubs there will be no disruption to service as they will fail-over automatically, Freedom-01 and Freedom-02 will be down for a very short amount of time while the update is applied and the server bought back online.


    I'm not sure exactly when I'm going to do this, but probably late morning UK Time tomorrow depending on how many players we've got.

    @simplynick#11755 I am clearly mis-remembering in that case, because I was sure we had had a conversation regarding it as even if it did not fall under a official TF platform (Which I believe it did but can see there has been historic confusion, thus the move to teams in part) it did fall under https://forum.totalfreedom.me/…t-outside-of-totalfreedom which is what I thought you had been warned / otherwise punished under.


    Either way it has nothing to do with this thread, your behaviour was unacceptable, and if you had not been punished at the time then that was a genuine mistake, because you absolutely should have been and I was fairly sure you were.

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    @simplynick#11748 If it was truly part of TF official platforms, pretty sure every executive has violated the conduct policy and admin policy by engaging in such words, why have I not been punished for it, who hasn't anyone?

    If I've missed things in it then my apologies, if someone has been reported for what they've said in it and not properly punished then that's a different matter, but they should have been if it was flagged. You were punished for it, I seem to recall I removed you from your exec role over it (Or if not I certainly warned you, it's a bit hazey and it was a while back now)

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    @simplynick#11748 I don't believe that sensible judgement has applied to cases like this one, and many more that I have personally witnessed as far as I have been here, admins violating admin policy by saying one word or another receive less punishment than others. "Saying thing X = Ban Y" - Pretty sure that's exactly what the server has been doing, if an administrator says a word which is banned by policy, they all receive the same punishment regardless if it's the n-word, f-word or whatever word that seems bad enough to call for punishment, our policies strictly apply the usage of some words and ways to punish them

    The admin issuing the punishment ultimately decides how long / the setup of that punishment, and in the case of admins the EAO has final say on all matters relating to this, there is always additional context / info that is going to have a factor, which I believe it did on this occasion just from my involvement in the suspension / bans. That's how the server should always have worked, the "Rules" are there to give us a guideline on what is acceptable and what is not, and to help give staff the framework under which to issue a sanction under, not to bind them to it and stop them doing their jobs effectively.

    @Ashaz#11743 Not that it has anything to do with the thread, but if you report someone for something, and you don't feel action has been taken or they haven't replied, then why not just message them and ask? Or escalate it to someone more senior if you think it's being ignored... There's no need to have a million formal processes for this sort of stuff...

    @Ashaz#11740 Because we don't have to inform people of what happens with their reports... We don't do it in game or anywhere else... You report something and a member of staff handles it, or doesn't if they don't feel it is appropriate.

    As far as I'm concerned I've seen no evidence to suggest that you were suspended for no reason, and by your own admission you agree you should have been sanctioned.


    With that in mind, as far as I'm concerned you should need to go through the full indef suspension return process. You were out of line and were punished for such behaviour, I think if anything this sets a worse precedent by letting admins just talk their way out of poor behaviour because they decided they don't agree with the punishment, which isn't how this works.


    At the end of the day this is down to fionn but that's my view.

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    @Luke#11665 In Discord, I said multiple things. However, only 1 thing I said broke any rules. I said multiple times "I'm going to say the N word", however I never actually did. This therefore shouldn't be used against me as I broke no rules. However, I did use the "f slur" which I completely concede was wrong of me, and while I attempted to use it as a quote, as I'm sure some of you are aware, I don't believe context matters, rather the action itself. In total, by doing this, I broke:

    While you did not necessarily say the word in the full format, you had on multiple occasions skirted around it, and it was very clear the point you were making, and what you were effectively saying. Just because you swap a letter around it doesn't mean it's not very very clear what you were getting at... The fact you continued to do this, then disregarded the instructions of multiple members of staff (Discord and server staff) was what resulted in your ban on Discord, you were disrespectful and out of line especially considering you were a senior admin at the time.

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    @Luke#11665 I was banned from the Discord as well as this. I believe an indefinite suspension is quite frankly unfair; another admin previously got suspended for using the same word as me. She was initially suspended for 2 weeks, and then it got made indefinite when she did it again. In short, she had a second chance. I never got said second chance.

    Precedent doesn't really make a difference as far as I'm concerned, it's there as a guide, but the EAO ultimately reserved final rights to decide what a fitting punishment is. If anything the fact someone had already been suspended combined with the fact you were a senior admin in my head means it should be even more clear that the behaviour was utterly unacceptable.

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    @simplynick#11698 (Isn't part of TF platform)

    For the record, and as I have said before. It was, a chat that is used for the exclusive purpose of discussing the servers management especially when I'm also in the chat, made it pretty obvious it was official.

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    @simplynick#11698 A common problem I kept seeing in TF that some people reserve less punishment than other people but still under TF's conduct policy, Admin Policy, ZTP and the Discord Policy for fuck knows.

    That's because generally speaking these things come down to judgement and those with the ability to issue those punishments are expected to use sensible judgement... We don't strictly apply "Saying thing X = Ban Y" because that's not a sensible way to run things.

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    @redeastwood#11705 That does not in any way warrant a suspension, definitely not one for as long as it is currently.

    I disagree, an experienced senior admin who was provoking our player base and other admins is wholly unacceptable and is not just bad for the immediate term when the incident occurs, but can damage our reputation and set a bad image for admins...

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    @redeastwood#11705 I will say this though, if @fionn has warned Luke about his attitude, and can provide evidence of this, I will happily change my vote. That would be disobeying the EAO's warnings, which is grounds for suspension.

    There were a number of warnings issued on the day and in the days running up to this by a number of people ranging from admins to discord staff to me...

    @Ashaz#11718 Everything and anything relating to the management of admins is at the digression of the EAO. They are who I have effectively delegated to make these sorts of decisions around if admins should be suspended and the terms of suspensions and returns. In this case Fionn made the decision for an indef suspension based on the behaviour and that's within his rights to do so.

    I believe ip verification is an option in the next tfm release (need to check if that includes ranks management as well) but happy with this. We are now an online mode server so the ip verification is purely legacy.

    @Miwojedk#11690 The majority of the core from the ztp already exists in other policies which I think was the point here.


    I've not had a chance to read through all of this properly but will read and put my 2 cent in later.

    @Telesphoreo#11416 that's very strange.


    Other thing to try is running first aid on the disk rather than the partition of you haven't already. Might give you something.