FS-204 raised to investigate and resolve.
Posts by wild1145
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FS-203 raised to look into this.
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FS-202 raised to address.
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Waiting on user update to confirm if this is a valid bug or not.
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There should be enough rules to cover this already. As I said yesterday if there are players trying to dance around the rules then final authority sits with the most senior admin who is in game who can make the judgment call on if it's breaking the rules or not.
I'm this case it would almost certainly break the NSFW rules, and as other people have highlighted often probably the fact that the content produced is illegal in some or all of the countries that we care about.
I really don't want to end up with super long rules again just to cover every possibly edge case, let's apply common sense and sensible judgment?
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I intend long term to remove or have the ability to disable the custom TFM worlds anyway, as that's caused a hell of a lot of the problems for TF recently.
Ultimately we won't ever ever ever permit new worlds to be created on the FreeOP Servers, and my intention will be that as we go forward we start to move these current custom TFM worlds out of FreeOP Servers and on to dedicated servers instead.
I have no issue approving the dev time to disable / enable the admin world / MB world etc etc, but customising them / dynamically adding them based on config isn't something I really see being remotely useful to TF, especially when there's about 100 other tickets (Not even kidding) that needs to be done right now...
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I swear to fucking God I will sue you to the ends of this earth for plagiarizing my posts lyicx
Guess it's time to re think your future on this server.
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Further to the original post here - https://forum.totalfreedom.me/d/1124-luke-self-request
Luke has requested to have his forum IP ban removed, and given both were self-requests the IP block on the forum has now been lifted.
I think he might have been IP banned in game so am leaving this open for StevenNL2000 to take any further action / updates he requires.
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Does the indef ban file show a reason known?
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The EAO investigation have been concluded with no change to the application process now.
I've raised a separate thread discussing changes I hope to make to this role, once those are finalised I'll make the appropriate announcement(s) in due course.
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Hi Folks,
I've been pondering over making some changes to the role of the ESL for some time, given the role at this point has sorta been 3 former exec roles all mushed up into one, and from reading the applications and conversations with some of the candidates, it's become clear folks all have very different ideas of what the ESL role is and means, so before I appoint someone to take on the executive role, I want to open my changes up for community feedback to see if folks agree with my thinking.
In short, I intend to split the ESL role into two roles, one focused around advertising and external outreach, and one around community management and player retention. I expect the two roles to actually work very closely together, but I think from reading the applications for ESL and the conversations I've had, we've got applicants that would be outstanding at one, and okay at the other and vice vera.
In short the "Advertising" person would be responsible for bringing new players in, managing our advertising strategy and co-running the servers social media. The "Community Manager" would be responsible for the management of events, helping prioritise new feature suggestions, co-running the social media and ultimately trying to retain as many players as we can.
It'll need to be fleshed out into a bit more detail before I do make any changes, and I'll update this post and the thread appropriately, but before I go to far I'd appreciate peoples thoughts on if they think this is a sensible split, or if there is a better way to do this, my current view is a single ESL role is just too big at the moment.
Thanks folks.
Update:
The Current ESL Role Description:
Manages server advertisement and community engagement. In charge of maintaining voting websites and manages the growth of the community. The primary responsibility of this role is to grow the servers player base, and engage with our community.
They also manage server events (hosted from the Discord server) to help bring the community together to do more things such as build comps, movies, playing other games, you name it.
Executive Community Manager:
The Executive Community Manager is responsible for the health and ongoing retention of our community. This individual will be responsible for managing server events, for engagement with the community and helping to bring suggestions to the wider leadership team which will benefit the server and helping to run the server social media presence. This individual will be responsible for helping to maintain the community on all of our platforms (In-Game, on the forums, on Discord and anywhere else we may deem official in the future).
This individual will be expected to work closely with our development team to help agree priorities for features that the community are looking for, and will be expected to work closely with the Executive Server Evangelist to ensure a joined up strategy for the growth of the server. This individual will also continue to oversee any associated communities / servers with the TF Network.
Executive Server Evangelist
The Executive Server Evangelist will be responsible for the overall advertising and promotional strategy of the TF Network, bringing players in to the FreeOP Servers, and any other gamemodes we launch in the future. This individual will be expected to represent the community externally (And by extension representing ATLAS Media Group) with the end-goal of bringing more players to us.
This individual will also be expected to help coordinate and execute our social media plans, along side other individuals as appropriate and to work with the Community Manager and Lead Developer to agree on priorities for new features, gamemodes or anything else that may help attract players. This individual will also be ultimately responsible for things such as voting, which will likely play a key part in the advertising strategy, again engaging with the community manager where appropriate to do so.
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@chargenation1158#15154 please don't bump suggestions. It just means they don't get reviewed by me until much much later given I look at threads that haven't had a reply for 7 or more days.
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So something I would find very useful as well is to understand.
Do we drop the NBT Data in WorldEdit for OP's when they copy the blocks, or when they paste them? Just wondering if folks are building things and saving them as schematics if the NBT data at least is stored there, because at least then when we have fixed this issue folks will have NBT to paste?
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@UnderTails#15105 I'm not blaming you or anyone else, I'm giving you my perspective on things... That's all I can do, I tell the exec's to something, I expect it sorted out. If that message isn't passed down then that's equally not something I can mind read...
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@Tizz#15102 Are the delays on these projects and Lykhant's resignation related? If so filling in the vacant positions with active executives should be a priority
I don't believe so, certainly not directly related. Lykhant as I understand had a lot of other commitments that took priority, which is absolutely fair. I suspect this was more an issue of lack of time to coordinate, and then forgetting about it, which we all do.
Quote@UnderTails#15103 How? Is an OP going to see an MB properly pasting a chest or a banner and cry? No. Is it a permission everyone should have yes? Is it a permission everyone has? No. If anyone should have NBT paste it should be the builders
Some OP's have one set of permissions, and another set of OP's have slightly more permissions... I'm not sure how else I can explain it... And actually yes, I suspect a number of OP's would be pretty pissed and end up applying for the title as you've said, just to have the perms... Defeating the point of the title.
Quote@UnderTails#15103 MB has no requirements? You need to be a good builder which is a skill not that many minecraft players have. What are the requirements for admin? The requirements are being a player on here and not being hated by
MB's can be appointed by the ECD without any formal application / process... The application process again is a relatively new thing in the scheme of things, my point is there is a set known quantity with how admin applications work and are processed, and they ultimately come via me for changes directly or indirectly, that process is not at all the same for the MB processes.
Quote@UnderTails#15103 This is not true. Do you believe that MBs solely work in the other server? I get requested all the time by admins to help them build stuff for events, and I could use nbt paste to help me in my job of that
I believe you should have the same permissions as every other OP on the FreeOP Server, and any additional tools / plugins / perms you need should be only configured on a dedicated project build server, which is exactly the model we moved to.
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@redeastwood#15096 As a Server Liason who at this point is very worried about our playerbase and current player retention, I will say this -
Our server claims to be a building server. We do not have the barest of essential building plugins, we do not allow our trusted builders with basic building commands and toolsSo I will say, I think the claim that we are a building server, is a very new one... We historically claimed to be FreeOP and not a lot more, you could do anything and everything, a lot of our player base actually used to orientate around PVP and hacked clients rather than building. I've been concerned about our branding as a building server because as you say, we're not setup for that, and frankly I suspect there are a million other servers out there that can do a better job...
Quote@redeastwood#15096 There is absolutely nothing stopping our builders from leaving this server and going to another one.
I agree, again, part of the concern with calling a FreeOP Server a building server...
Quote@redeastwood#15096 In the past, what has stopped our builders leaving is their inherent recognition and respect as a builder - and it seems that now that is also redundant by branding our trusted and skilled builders as mere OPs.
I disagree, we have NEVER historically separated OP's into "Just OP's" and MB's, the MB rank was only ever historically given to players who built maps which would be hosted on the server as the main world, and was a distinguished title to reflect that. Not some reflection that you are a good / average / whatever builder generally... I think that's the key difference here, between building for the server, and building personal projects, and that's the key difference we need to remember.
Quote@redeastwood#15096 That makes it sound like they are expendable.
Only if we are calling our entire player-base expendable, which we both know isn't the case, and I'm sure wasn't the intended messaging there...
Quote@redeastwood#15096 I'm absolutely positive that @Ryan is working on fixing all of these issues for you. While I cannot guarantee a date for these fixes, I can assure you that they will come - and when they do come they will be much better than any quick fix we can roll out right now.
The team (Mostly dev team) are working as fast as they can to resolve the issues we have, based on criticality and impact. I've not yet seen a good proposal on how we can allow NBT to be used by all players, and if I did and it was viable, it'd be up there as a pretty high priority issue...
We publish regular updates on Discord with the release plans for TFM and the other plugins, and I'm working on adding other community requested plugins as quickly as we can get them in a good state to add, but due to the nature of FreeOP, often these can take some time to get customised and working properly... Especially when they're smaller plugins or designed for smaller servers where everyone just trusts everyone else!
I'm also happy to be challenged on the prioritisation of tickets, if there are features that the community think are more important than others, I have no issue making changes, I've gone based on what I feel the importance is, and what the community have said on suggestions, but that can change as we go through, and I'm working with Fleek now that he's in place as the ELD to prioritise the tickets as we start looking at releases so we can get the stuff the community gives a crap about released as soon as it's possible to do so.
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Also for the record, this was the message I sent to the ECD and AECD back at the start of Jan before we removed the festive hub, because I was waiting on the MB Team to make changes on the server I'd given them which had been made on the festive hub. I haven't given any more work since then given I am STILL waiting for this to be done...
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@UnderTails#15095 I never said the hub was nothing, I said the list of things I gave to the ECD back in January, I've seen no work progressed on, because there was a lot of things that needed tweaking in the hub.
Quote@UnderTails#15095 giving mbs nbt paste isn’t going to divide the server into a hierarchy, nor is it even that big of a deal
Yes, it literally is, I don't understand why you're not getting that? And I disagree, I think it is a significant shift in our historic position as a server, and is absolutely not something I will encourage, endorse or allow.
Quote@UnderTails#15095 mbs are just ops, but ops who work for the server in building for it, and who have our own world only we can use.
I never disagreed with that, if you'd read my replies in full, you'd note I mentioned that as an exception to the rule. Long term that will be moved out of the FreeOP server, and you'll have no additional perms beyond that of a standard op in FreeOP servers.
Quote@UnderTails#15095 we all want ops to have nbt paste but it’s not looking likely to ever happen
so until then
We think mbs deserve this right because they are the builders of this server, and it is not an easy task becoming one which justifies trust, if it doesn’t do it for you in the trust category we should have a different role that takes even more effort to get just so we can have building rights.
Yet nobody's ever asked for it, or gave a solution on how we could make it happen...
Also again, go back and read my replies, it's trivial to get MB Compared to admin, there are no official and managed requirements, and it's at the total wim of who ever the ECD happens to be at the time.
Quote@UnderTails#15095 It shouldn’t be that you need to be an admin to have any difference than an op.
It absolutely should, that's my entire point.
Quote@UnderTails#15095 and it shouldn’t be that the official builders of our server need to apply for admin to have these building permissions.
And as I've said, MB's need no such access to complete their role as an MB, we have dedicated build servers for that exact reason.
Quote@UnderTails#15095 Read my full response before you reply to this one
If I've missed something specific then feel free to say, I do read the full responses, but we keep going over the same topic over and over and over again, and there's only so many times we can both do that.
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@UnderTails#15091
Quote@UnderTails#15089 all mbs including myself applied for more power back then because we wanted to have
That is the literal definition of creating a hierarchy...
The point is not a point of trust, it's an issue that you are an OP, not an admin. MB is a title, and not a rank.
The MB Title can be given out with no application process, with no oversight, and with no checks and balances, it's not something that frequently happens, but is much easier to do with titles than ranks.
The point here is you, and any MB Which is not also an admin, is an OP. We should be treating all of the OP's with equal access to the server. The MB title is there to recognise players that contribute to the server, and should never have been given to individuals that wanted it just for extra perms, especially if they don't then contribute back to the server in some meaningful way (And I'm not saying you specifically have / have not, I'm just saying generally as far as I'm concerned).
If we want to allow NBT paste for MB's, then someone needs to suggest a good way we can do it for all OP's, once we have that, I'd be happy to have that discussion and push for that as a solution, as that's actually solving the issue, otherwise we just end up with needless ranks and titles that have subtly different permissions, and creates a shit experience for new players who then just apply for the same reason you claim you and everyone else did, despite then not giving anything back to the server which was the entire point of the title originally
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@UnderTails#15088 And I have no intention of doing so... The FreeOP Server should be allowing as much access to all players than possible, not creating needless hierarchy for the sake of it.
MB is a title, and while I know there are some differences, and I intend long term to reduce those, and you have your own world which I get, and is a tad different, especially when it gets moved on to it's own dedicated private server, I have no intention to grant the MB Title additional FreeOP permissions any time soon... I see no need to do so without creating pointless differences between some OP's and others...