Posts by Luke
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so yeah, I wouldn't really blame anyone, especially prospective staff, for hitting the panic button at this point.
nothing, and i mean nothing, warrants an irl breakdown.
panicking as in being worried? fair.
Saying:
‘more like giving up on this reality. Everything goes wrong every fucking day. I can’t fucking handle this’
Or
‘I am actively having a fucking mental breakdown’
That’s crossing a line.
What mental gymnastics do you have to use to say ‘Yeah, thats normal’?
Under what circumstance is that a normal attachment to have to a Minecraft server? Where a change such as making a channel read-only warrants a mental breakdown and someone giving up on reality?
In your mind, what if this was something intense like shit we as management would have to deal with? What if OP was DDOSed? What if OP had some really important stuff revealed? What if OP had to deal with the shitty scrutiny most of us have to deal with on the daily?
No, it’s not normal and no, we shouldn’t be allowing it to get this far. I’m against anything formal, don’t get me wrong, and I am against making the decision for Aero that Aero’s gone too far but in the same strand I’m absolutely against Aero getting an additional role on here given how deep this attachment goes
I change my vote to an objection.
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i think idk if people are mistaking my (and others) arguments but personally
couldn’t give a fuck about statistical play time. i care about his emotions and his attachment, not his playtime.
e.g. his breakdown because of freedom-01 becoming read only. that’s what i care about.
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i’m moving back to neutral following
this mini breakdown last night due to the disabling of talking in freedom-01. it was not that deep & didn’t require this reaction
if this is out of context please tell me but i did read the context and it didn’t seem to be a joke
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From a quick search through the Discord server, slurs aren't very commonly used at all compared to actual proper conversation
You are correct. This is because of my chat filter.
Secondly, I believe slurs are acceptable in a historical context if you are not the one who's actually using it. To elaborate, if you are providing transcripts of older conversations (which so happened to contain slurs in them) whilst documenting something historical that happened, that should be fine because the messages were from an era that was more accepting of that kind of language. Sure, you could alter them to remove that shit, but altering historical documentation to remove language that isn't acceptable today is altering history to me, and I'm not a fan of that at all.
Lastly, I believe slurs are also acceptable if they are used in the context of evidence. If someone were to file a ban request or something similar for someone who repeatedly spammed racial slurs on the server, they should be able to provide sufficient evidence that supports this.Caleb dead honest regardless of your opinion, slurs are not permitted in historical context. This suggestion should be to assist admins with the current rules as they stand, not where you want them to be.
And slurs are permitted in evidence. But could you remind me in what situation exactly it would be important to say the full slur in evidence instead of just saying ‘the n word’ or the ‘the f slur’?
I'm not the only one who can do this. Anyone with file access could do this, not just me. Hell, if this gets implemented network-wide, I wouldn't be able to do this because I don't have access to NetworkManager.
Rylie and Ryan.
If Ryan wanted to 1984 the server then he’d have done it.
If Rylie wanted to 1984 the server then Ryan would remove Rylie.
Trust your team. Don’t be paranoid.
That's not the same thing at all and you know this.
Apologies for the strawman. I have nothing to say against this.
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All i’ll say is that we’ve had the discord filter in for some time now.
There’s been exactly one example of people bypassing the filter to say stupid shit that I’m aware of and it was Video and Lyicx doing it to go against the ‘kys’ ban I made myself.
People overestimate how much others care about filters and blocks
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Video dead honest here you’re too stuck in the past. smartnt was over three years ago. you gotta let go of the idea of ‘executive corruption’ when for one YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF THE EXECUTIVES IF THEY BEGIN TO BAN ‘THOUGHTCRIME’ THEN REMOVE THEM
but other than that you gotta stop letting things progress out of fear for it becoming smartnt, if shit begins to get worse then do something about it as owner…? don’t just block decisions out of fear of what ifs, just take action when those incredibly unlikely ‘what ifs’ happen
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They are never perfect and can have false positives and false negatives
have you had an issue with the one on Discord so far?
They are incredibly easy to bypass to the point where it would become a game of whack-a-mole with the filter, where it becomes increasingly necessary to add onto the filter
compared to now where it’s whack a mole with people saying the slur?
Chat filters never take context into account
i’d like you to explain this point more in particular in what context would this be acceptable
It could lead to us eventually using it to punish those who practice thoughtcrime (such as whose who question how we run the server) or use profanity
video try not to use 1984/churchill stuff (impossible)
honestly video you gotta humble yourself the only person who’d be able to do this is you if we have a filter set only to ban the n word/the f word/other slurs. if it’s in config.yml.
Admins exist to keep the chat from being a slur-filled shithole
by that extent we should also remove long term bans. admins exist to ban the users on sight. we should also remove /gtfo, as admins can kick on site. we should also remove /report because admins should be able to see what’s going on.
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vouch i’m fairly sure one of the biggest opposers to this was videogamesm12 and i’m fairly sure that was for stupid ‘preserving the nature of tf’ stuff but don’t quote me there i may be really badly misremembering
either way a chat filter is necessary to stop slurs and the like and if we do it so it’s only to stop slurs and such then i don’t exactly see any shortcomings. just don’t fall for that scunthorpe issue or whatever it is coco was saying
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Despite what it may seem i vouch.if others are confident this won’t be a detriment to aero then i support aero for being an admin.
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I played on the server a lot, a lot, before I became admin.
Remind me, how long ago was this?
what's your issue
could you kindly tell me other names Aero commonly goes by? There’s a big one that you’d know if you actually saw the applicant talking and such
fucking say it instead of passive aggressively harassing me every time I dare login and post an opinion on the server I'm a charter admin on.
What part of my last post was not ‘saying’ it? Would you rather I scream swears and call you mean words? You seemed to understand my point so I’m not 100% quite how I wasn’t clear enough
And two things:
1) This is the first time we’ve argued about this, not ‘everytime you login’
2) You do not have Charter admin. It was removed long ago and we’re just beginning to readd it.
Now then since you were so keen on me being completely honest:
Get your head out of your ass. Grow up. Stop accusing me of ‘constantly attacking you’ and playing a victim when I’ve said one thing, on this application, but never before.
The crux of my point was that why in God’s name should I listen to someone who has:
- not been on the Discord since January
- hasn’t been on the actual server in seemingly longer
who posted a vote seemingly out of spite to tell me and everyone else what our business is and how our vote is wrong?
Why should i listen to somebody who appears out of nowhere to tell us we’re wrong cuz ‘muh charter admin’ despite you having absolutely no knowledge of the applicant other than this application?
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Since when do people object because someone plays too much? Mind your own business mate
i said this before and i say it again
i don’t give two shits if its ‘my business’ or not, especially not when ‘my business’ is defined by somebody who is almost never here and only pops up once in a while to post a vote on people you have absolutely zero idea about
it’s ‘my business’ because such an attachment can be unhealthy mental health wise. and no, i don’t need to be a trained professional to know that too deep of an attachment = bad
if you’d actually join once in a while you’d understand this goes beyond just usual ‘hes on tf too much’, it’s a genuine serious attachment that i think is unhealthy.
i’ve not voted nor do i plan to out of spite but i find it fucking ridiculous we’re even at the point where ex users from years back are making comments and votes on people i have never seen them even interact with
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vouchjection it’s a new trend i’m starting
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I should add i truly think aero has improved significantly since their last few applications. if it were not for the attachment i’d be vouching.
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i’m not voting but what i will say is that aero genuinely this is coming from a place of good you need to take time off of tf more and i’m not confident admin will help
genuine it’s concerning me
and yes i can talk about this before i get replies saying ‘its not your place’ no im not a professional no i dont care and yes i’m within my right to say this
i’m not voting because i’m not your parents and i cannot make that decision for you
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i’m gonna accept the appeal.
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any further feedback?
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i’m the uvula
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Sorry, but isn’t the word, ‘cunt’ a little offensive? Not professional and not in the workplac
Well there goes 50% of my vocabulary
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Alright people please provide your input. Anything posted has to follow the new rule I’ve implemented (no vouches/neutrals/objections) and i’d like you all to discuss your view on the situation.
this won’t be instantly denied this time, i’m willing to hear out what you (justin) and/or others have to say
