Posts by enchy

↩  fleshly if you had to choose between giving a homeless child a house or saving a child who would be shot to death, which one would you choose?

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↩  Luke man said we’re just like slave owners and dictators

we have killed about as many people that died in ww2. so yes, we are. laugh all you want but what is deemed acceptable is constantly changing. we are in a small window of abortion being accepted. it wont last forever

↩ @'Ryan' 20% is a pretty fucking large percentage… Also citation needed.

https://abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

and its large but not the main driving force of why people get abortions. so saying people get abortions to prevent economic hardship is wrong since that only applies to 1/5 of abortions.

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↩ @'Ryan' So you’re removing more freedoms?

its not a removal of freedom to face the consequences of your own free choice.

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↩ @'Ryan' But we’re not, we’re not talking about “Children” or “babies” we’re talking about non-developed and pre-brain clumps of cells.

when does the fetus become alive/human?

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↩ @'Ryan' I never said it was

you said it was destroying lives, i stressed that its not removing lives because you didnt seem to directly mention life

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↩ @'Ryan' No, it’s the FORCED creation of life, in most civilised countries we call that rape and non-consent.

nope. if a person had consensual sex its not rape to make them have the baby that was born from their own free decision. the creation of life was not forced, it was from free choice.

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↩ @'Ryan' That didn’t even make any sense

preventing people from pursuing happiness by harming the lives of others. sorry for the weird phrasing.

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↩ @'Ryan' But it’s not an argument I’ve made, and you’re strawmanning here. Grow up.

i see youve decided to pull my card? im not saying you said that, im just extending your logic to people who have already been born

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↩ @'Ryan' Not when you’re forcing that suffering onto both, fate is one thing, intentionally sabotaging someones (and their Childs) chance at success is just being cruel.

its not forcing suffering. for one you cant know whether or not certain sufferings will occur in their lives. also the suffering would never happen if the mother didnt choose to have sex. its not forced, its a free choice.

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↩ @'Ryan' Fucking. Straw. Man.

not really. im just taking the worst possible outcome of your logic that preventing suffering is more important than human life.

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↩ @'Ryan' I think most laws globally, most civilised countries and common sense disagrees.

most laws globally in the 1800s would support slavery, racial discrimination, and other terrible things. common sense wouldnt disagree because it seems like common sense that once a genetically independent human is created, it is alive since it can grow and it is independent because it has its own unique dna.

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↩ @'Ryan' Cost of living is expensive
Raising a child is very expensive
Contraception is expensive

only 20% of abortions are for economic reasons

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↩ @'Ryan' Contraception fails
Humans are horrible and rape is a thing

dont want a baby, dont do the one thing designed to make babies. and only 0.5% of abortions are because of rape so rape isnt really statistically meaningful when talking about abortion.

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↩ @'Ryan' we should frankly be ashamed as a species we think it’s a good idea in the first place.

we should be ashamed as a species that we kill our own fucking babies. we have murdered i think 50 million babies since roe v wade. in 200 years humanity will call all of us psychopaths that we murdered millions of our own children, just like how we look back at slave owners and dictators.

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↩  darwin Roe and Casey made sure that women could choose to get an abortion if they wanted one. What’s wrong with that?

whats wrong is that roe has no constitutional basi

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↩ @'Ryan' And this ruling is doing none of those… It’s destroying peoples lives, removing liberties and going to cause more people to struggle and not be happy.

its not removing lives, it is protecting them. it is removing liberties in order to protect life. and it is preventing the pursuit of happiness to harm the lives of others.

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↩ @'Ryan' I don’t disagree suffering is inevitable, but to go out of your way to make more suffering is inhumane and immoral. Your argument here assumes there is actual life, and I would suggest that at the point we’re talking for the majority of abortions, there is no actual life

to prevent suffering, we should kill all poor people. by letting poor people live, we are creating suffering for them. suffering doesnt matter when talking about abortion because life is so much more important than suffering. whatever troubles the baby or mother may face, the value of their lives is more important than their suffering. if not, then we should all just kill ourselves because it will prevent suffering. for “actual life,” the only consistent way to define life is beginning at conception. any other definition doesnt work.

↩  mattlawn hp moment

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↩  Luke it is not in any way unreasonable to assume they would ban interracial marriage..

interracial marriage being banned would clearly violate the constitution. and gay marriage and interracial marriage are not in the same league. whatever precedent overturning roe v wade sets, i cant see interracial marriage being affected. the only people mentioning interracial marriage are people who oppose the supreme court decision, i have not seen anyone support banning interracial marriage.

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↩  Luke i don’t get your point here

my point is that economic hardship isnt a good defense for abortion since economic reasons are huge minority in reasons for getting an abortion. justifying abortions because economic hardship on the mother doesnt explain the huge majority of abortions.

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↩ @'Ryan' It doesn’t, but flat out going “No abortion for you” doesn’t solve the root cause either,

the root cause is saying “my convenience is more important than the lives of others.” this self-centered thinking isnt going to just go away and honestly it cant be fixed. banning abortion is just the best we can do at mitigating its effects.

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↩ @'Ryan' however for a government to unilaterally remove that freedom of choice is not evolution or good, it’s removing liberties and freedoms.

its also protecting lives. the government protects life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, in that order. the life of the fetus trumps the liberty of someone to pursue happiness by killing that fetus. murder is illegal because it is wrong to use liberty to remove life, because life trumps liberty.

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↩ @'Ryan' This encourages the suffering of mother and child, and the child is who will suffer for the many many years to come after

life is always going to involve suffering. trying to make a life without suffering is pointless. and the possibility of suffering is trumped by the value of human life. if we should end life to prevent suffering, then we would go kill all poor people and all people in third world countries.

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↩ @'Ryan' Why should it matter why you chose to get an abortion..?

because saying “abortions prevent economic hardship” doesnt address the main driving force of why people get abortions.

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↩ @'Ryan' By all means you can be pro-life, but you should also be pro-choice imho. If you want to be anti-choice then before banning abortion and setting the country as a whole back hundreds of years find a better solution to deal with the problem you’ve just created.

you cant ban abortion but still have the choice to have an abortion. if youre talking about adoption, then i agree. and how is it setting the country back hundreds of years by banning abortion? having the right to kill babies is not a sign of progress, its a sign of moral depravity

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↩  RedEastWood Unwanted children ruin lives. Murdering a child who cannot feel anything does not ruin lives, because the life in question has no experiences of the real world and cannot feel pain.

every person can ruin the life of someone else. even a perfect person could drive someone to become incredibly jealous and ruin their life. and just because someone cannot feel pain doesnt mean their life has less value. it would be wrong to kill someone in a coma if you know they will wake up in 9 months. abortion does ruin lives, it ruins the life of the baby, and it can ruin the life of the mother who regrets it, and ruin the life of the father who never had a choice whether or not his child would ever be born

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↩  root they’re absolutely going to go after things like contraception, lgbt rights, interracial marriage, etc if they ain’t stopped.

fucking white christian nationalism right here and they’re going to be the end of this country.

oh come on. you have got to be fucking kidding me.

interracial marriage? no way you actually believe the supreme court justices want to ban interracial marriage. and white christian nationalism? you act like all christians hate everyone who isnt a white male. stop slandering mainstream religious beliefs and straw manning anyone who disagrees with you.

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↩  erin Someone who really wants to abort a pregnancy is going to abort that pregnancy.. even if they have to put their own life in danger to do it.

i still dont get this argument. i dont see how we shouldnt ban something because people will do it illegally anyways. to me its like saying “we should drop the fda and all food safety regulations because people will eat anything if theyre hungry enough.” same thing goes for banning drugs. “well theyll just go buy sketch shit if theyre desperate enough, so we might as well legalize selling heroin to whoever.”

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↩  erin Especially right now more than most times, due to the huge inflation, it’s hard enough for many people to keep themselves afloat without the huge cost of having and raising a child.

only 20% of abortions are for economic or social reasons. the main reason for getting an abortion is not economic hardship. saying we should keep abortions because its hard financially on the mother is not a good reason because it only applies to 1/5 of abortions.

↩  RedEastWood he refuses to see the light and come out of the shdwos

have you tried googling your issue and searching for solutions?

↩  Deauthorized its their platform as in its minecrafts or its the servers?

i wonder if it would be explicitly illegal to ban someone from a server for making a report for profanity. because if someone tried to get a player banned from all multiplayer because they said fuck id be in favor of them filing an ibr honestly

edit: microsoft better come out with options for servers to make them “profanity legal servers” so that profanity reports dont apply, if not then fuck microsoft

↩  lyicx december 6 moment

baptist christian

↩  feather given that you joined like a week ago, know who shdwo is (because you said no and not "who is that"), and cited a post by shdwo about how flarum markdown stuff works, im gonna call cap

tier list of versions:

1: 1.12.2 solid performance, by far most common for modding and has dependable forge versions and mod support

2: 1.8.9 best version for pvp, ill always use this on pvp servers because 1.9 and after just sucks in every way. 1.8.9 also has some decent modding support

3: 1.16.5 best “newer” version. plenty of new features with solid performance and plenty of mods on both forge and fabric. having both forge and fabric mods is special to these newer versions which is cool, and even with multiple modloaders 1.16.5 has consistently good performance (for me at least). also it has hd heads and will be the glory version of tf for me, thats what i think about when i think of playing tf. would be higher but it doesnt have the same level of support as 1.12.2 and it has post 1.9 pvp

4: 1.7.10 super old and i wouldnt use it except for classic mods like the og mcheli. before 1.12.2 this was the best but it has been replaced by 1.12.2. still good tho for mods that were abandoned and not ported to 1.12.2

1.10.2 was a popular one for like 5 seconds, 1.14.4 too, but 1.13 never really got anything, 1.15 had the same deal, and 1.17 and newer dont have great support/performance

heinz completely changed the tomato ratio of ketchup today, modern ketchup is much more solid than ketchup in the late 1800s before heinz came in. its no surprise heinz is on top when heinz completely changed the definition of ketchup by turning it from more of a liquid to what it is today

↩  Telesphoreo 1.12.2 always for modding, i mostly play modded now so 1.12.2 is great, but 1.16.5 is the best version after 1.12.2 for stability and modding (1.7.10 doesnt count because its so old)

↩  videogamesm12 same here, 1.18 has garbage chunkloading, 1.16.5 is easily the best “new” version imo

↩  burger thats what its called lol