Posts by Xen

↩  Paldiu Whilst that is technically a good reason to remove their ranks, I think it is worth hearing them out first before pulling rank, considering the majority of them agree with this post (these topics aren't new). Threatening them will result in resignations (my prediction) which will ultimately slow down the already extremely slow development, tenfold.

Vouch for just enabling the feature. There’s no need to ping anyone about it. Especially with the raids going on, their notifications will just get blown up (assuming bot chats are even detected). Just simply not allow the chat to go through. This shouldn’t even be a debate. It’s quite concerning that this community has a difficult time with auto-moderating simple things such as racial slurs.

↩  DragonSlayer2189 The idea of “false flags” being a reason we don’t even at least attempt it is ridiculous. Same thing with “it’s easy to bypass.” If you are saying things that trigger the auto-mod, then you probably just shouldn’t say them. The feature is clearly for “Insults & Slurs,” anything that may be deemed as hate speech. Don’t say any or something close to them and I doubt there will be any triggers.

If it becomes a serious issue to the point where it’s causing more issues than solving problems, then it can simply be disabled.

Bump - It has been almost two weeks since this was posted and one week since the last reply.

↩  RedEastWood No where in the requirements does it say you need to be nice to be a senior admin. There have been plenty of and still are not nice senior admins.

As an objective reader of this argument, I can say without a doubt that it was you being rude to Telesphoreo. I can understand wanting assistance, but he isn’t required to provide it. Based off of the way you responded to him not helping you, I don’t think you are very nice.

Anyways, I vouch.

↩ @'r00t' He has been temp-banned already. No need to continue replying to this thread or any other ones he has made.

Vouch, but its removal doesn't have to be permanent. If Wild has some expansion plans, then it can be added back when the time is right and it's better configured. At the moment, it is just causing issues and is not entirely useful. To add to that, there is a lack of permissions for admins to moderate in hub, and command blocks probably shouldn't be controlling stuff at spawn.

Vouch for proximity chat. I think that would be cool to add, especially since not everyone wants to use Discord.
Train carts doesn't look like a terrible idea, but could be a recipe for disaster. If it can be implemented without having to worry about server stability, then I vouch. The server needs more things to do and build with.

Object for TranslateMe. The plugin doesn't even work, that is the first thing stated in the plugin description.

Vouch, I suggested giving admins hub permissions a long time ago, but my suggestion was denied and hub moderators were created as a solution. Separating permissions hub vs freedom server is only making it easier for people to break rules and get away with it.

I also agree with the idea of getting rid of hub altogether.

I’ll vouch as long as it doesn’t cause any major issues. TF needs some more unique aspects of it. I think this would be a cool idea, especially for builders.

↩ @'r00t' I think they were just using ProtonVPN as an example.

For anyone who is against the idea, simply because "it is easy to bypass," please provide me with one con that would come about if we were to implement a BASIC chat filter, blacklisting ONLY common derogatory words/terms. Who or what would be negatively affected by this action (other than the people attempting to use the words/terms of course)?

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↩  Alco_Rs11 Slowing down the sending of messages has a drawback to fast typers. I’m a fast typer and I get very annoyed at having a forced delay for chatting. I’m sure anyone else who types fast would feel the same about it.

Regarding this, chat restrictions with time limits in-between messages can and should be exempted for admins.

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↩  Telesphoreo See: TFMs AntiSpam

Whatever system TFM has for AntiSpam, it is either not enabled or not working. Either way, something else needs to be done.

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↩  Telesphoreo If you want my opinion it’s to get rid of the bungeeing entirely. The whole bungee situation has been a disaster and created more problems than solved.

I most definitely agree. Many of the raids were done via Hub using /msg that made it to everyone, despite them not being in Hub. With that, it also made it more difficult--impossible I should say--for admins to moderate due to their lack of permissions in Hub.

↩  Telesphoreo Again, that may be true, but the alternative is to what? Do nothing? Relying on admins and hub mods to stay in-game 24/7 and ban spammers isn't very effective either. Especially when there are none on at all.

With that chat filter, we can at least deter some spammers. Not all of them are lifeless losers who have scripts, a ton of alt accounts, and a VPN. Some are just idiots who try it once and get banned, then never come back.

Object, I agree with everything above, plus many people choose to play with VPNs for security reasons. Wouldn't be fair to make them suffer because people want to be assholes and abuse them.

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↩  Alco_Rs11 Also, as for the chat filter thing, Roblox is an example of how a chat filter is not very effective. They filter certain words when people are creating account usernames and it’s very easy to find ways to skirt it and come up with some pretty offensive usernames, regardless of the filter.

Right, but that filter is still there to prevent obvious attempts. It isn't perfect, but something is better than nothing.

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↩ @' 5 ' blacklisting words is ineffective. there are thousands of ways to alter a slur that wouldn’t trip a hardcoded filter but would remain understandable for a fluent speaker. and then there is also putting it in a different language like they did with the ashaz thing.

Yes, this is true, but currently, you don't even need to alter the word for it to be sent to chat for everyone to see. Why would we ban these words, but only rely on admins to moderate them? If someone decided to send the word "N#GGER" and the server stopped them, then BOOM that is more than what is being done right now.

↩  Alco_Rs11 You think we are incapable of adaptation?

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↩  Xen As time goes on, that chat filter can be improved to better filter out attempts of bypassing it.

↩  Alco_Rs11 It will do justice. Maybe not a lot, but it is better than nothing. And as mentioned in the thread, it is something that can be approved as time goes on. At this point, nothing else is being done other than continuous back and forth of this person bypassing bans, joining, spamming, and admins sitting there just banning.

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↩  Alco_Rs11 And for the “raids,” this is just a temporary thing that will eventually have an end.

This server has been experiencing raids since at least when I joined which was 2013 and I assume they've been happening long before that. They are not going away anytime soon.

↩  Fleek I was not accusing others of doing the same in that moment nor was I justifying my actions.

Trigger Warning: This thread will include words that may be offensive to some.

Chat and commands need an increased time limit in-between messages. Also, enforcing a basic chat filter--only banning derogatory words such as "N@GGER" or "F@GGOT"--would not hurt anyone and only make it harder for trolls to join and spam. Obviously yes, they can be easily bypassed, but nothing else is being done to prevent these raids other than admins just sitting in-game and continuously banning. As time goes on, that chat filter can be improved to better filter out attempts of bypassing it. I do not see it being easily bypassed as a valid argument. We continue to ban people despite it being easy to bypass a ban.

Admins cannot be relied on 24/7 to stop these raids. It gets even worse when the spamming is being done from Hub using /msg. Due to the lack of permissions admins have in Hub, they essentially cannot do anything until a hub moderator comes on (which is also really dumb, but unrelated to this thread).

Popular servers, such as Hypixel, wouldn't have a chat filter if it didn't work. Just imagine Hypixel’s servers with a ton of admins just constantly banning people and clearing chat because they decided that a chat filter was too easy to bypass.

Here are some examples of something that could be EASILY prevented if we enforced a BASIC chat filter. Nothing crazy.

Screenshot by @"Alco_Rs11"#91