Flarum Theme Change Suggestion

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@Wize#7684 I'm not quite sure if the current administration's plan is to use Flarum as our indefinite forums.

i will say, the plan for flarum is to be replaced within the near future, so i doubt this'd come to frutition.

ill probably have a look at these extensions anyway but they seem alright from what i see in the URLs

vouch.

this is much better than going to woltlabs

as much as i agree and fully vouch for this, wild has already said multiple times that he will not be adding any extensions to flarum since they are "hard to work with" and stuff, which i completely disagree with, but have given up arguing at this point

Cluttering newer forums with features that were beloved on traditional sites purely for the fleeting nostalgia of "bringing back the old forum" does nothing to improve a site's user interface. In many aspects, this would only litter a forum software that has been simplified for lightweight platforms.

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@Wize#7684 Thread replies feel under-satisfying, there's no shout box or instant messaging.

Thread replies are "under-satisfying" because this server's community is used to short-witted replies of scanty discernment and favors expressing their viewpoints in anonymous polls. When members of this server create meaningful threads full of constructive replies, then you will feel the satisfaction of reading a worthwhile exchange of ideas. Discussion boards exist to bring people together and are not a substance of their own.

I don't feel the need for a "shoutbox" or tagboard when this community has a guild, which is always going to be more active than any forum's shoutbox would be. The old squawkbox was mainly used for verifying members of staff, and since this is now a premium server, what use would it conjure in the present?

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I've had extensive experience with Flarum and the good news is that with a little bit of love, these forums can truly be a new, refreshing chapter in TF's history.

I understand that I'm in the minority, but I prefer Flarum to this forum's previous software. Not only is it more readily accessible, however the board is cleaner, and categories are less pronounced. Discussions are less segregated, better fitting into the overall scale of this server. The old forum was too monolithic for a shrinking community, and I feel as if the stupor of nostalgia interferes with an understanding of how shitty the "user experience" on the old forum was.

Finally: please appreciate the distinction between a "forum" and multiple "forums."

wize when the hell did you come back lmao
Vouch it looks much better than the one we currently have

Obviously we should strive to improve the forum experience, but I am pretty sure we are intending to do that by switching away from Flarum, so it is unlikely that this suggestion will be implemented.

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@Wize#7707 In regards to what I meant by "thread replies", I was commenting on the current state of this forum's thread/thread-reply UI- A UI that is remarkably underwhelming. Thus, when I referred to the current state of these forum's thread-replies being "under-satisfying", I was commenting on them from the perspective of a player in this community.

Yes, I understand that your original post made reference to the user interface of thread replies, my point being that the "thread-reply" user interface of discussion boards should only exist to expedite the process of formatting and submitting that reply. The actual process of submitting a post does not vary between "player" (member) and moderator, so I fail to understand why there would be a great difference in overall satisfaction "from the perspective of [each position]."

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I've preached this before and now I will sing about it again, THE PERSPECTIVE OF AN OP CAN'T BE OVERLOOKED BY AN ADMIN, especially if TF hopes to have any glimmer of a player-base moving forward.

I hope you'll notice that I'm also an operator. Regardless, there have been many cases where operators have taken impractical or unrealistic "perspectives" while pushing them onto others. You should not be so quick to generalize.

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What's kept TF alive all these years [...] are its players that have some-way or another entwined themselves in the history that that "monolithic" forum had stood for.

This server's community has kept it alive, not an outdated forum which has proven unsuitable for that community. As for its players "being entwined in the history that [ProBoards] had stood for," that "monolithic forum" had stood for nothing more than an uncomfortable terms of service and years of neglect on behalf of its team. Flarum is an imperfect solution however provides a much better experience than ProBoards did.

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@Wize#7707 I mean seriously man, a "monolith of clutter", you fully offended everyone on here in three words, that's got to be a record or something.

I can't find these three words being used anywhere in my post.

On the grounds that for every plugin that I add makes upgrading flare considerably more I'm going to decline this suggestion.