I didn't expect to experience a mindfuck today, jesus fuck
ashaz discovering subjectivity
So deep... 🤯
this tells us a lot about the great famine of 1958-1961
Simple! Just burn down the fucking room.
Quote↩ @'wxtermelon' Does that mean rooms are never tidy? Are rooms never messy? Do tidiness and messiness exist?
tidiness / messiness is a measure of the orderliness of your room. if it is tidy, it is set up in a certain order, if it is messy, it is a random clusterfuck on the floor. this means that tidiness should be an objective measure of your room’s accordance to its order that you created because the order you like is subjective to you.
if someone else comes in and thinks it is messy, then that is because they disagree with your definition of “order,” because messiness is not in accordance of order, so if your room does not match their definition of order, it is “messy” to them.
from here you have two options: discuss with your friend the optimal definition of “order” and help your friend understand why you have that definition of order, or take the red pill and burn your whole house down
tl;dr tidiness / messiness is an objective measure of closeness to order, but order itself is a subjective definition
↩ Miwojedk the closeness of the book to what you think is good would be objective since “goodness” in this context would be how similar the book is to your definition of an optimal book, or “book supreme,” or bs for short (yes thats intentional).
however, goodness would still be subjective because another person might have a different definition of the bs. since their definition is different, the goodness of the book is different for different people.
the measure of “goodness” is objective, but the measurement is based on the subjective definition of bs, so the how good a book is is subjective. for something to be objective with my logic the definitions would have to be objective, which they are not for books and for messiness
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