Remove Hub Moderators

Object I like being yellow tbh
On a more serious note; Ryan has stated that the two servers are separate and should stay that way.

Vouch. The hub doesn’t need its own special cia type task force of mods. It’s the most useless attempt at making us seem like a “big network”. I’d honestly vouch for removing the hub in its entirety.

Maybe just disabling NetworkManagers useless fucking PM system in the hub would work

I think hub should be removed entirely. Especially with the fact it's near impossible to get a 'hub mod' on the hub to remove troublemakers when you need them, it should go. Also, hub connects to freedom01 exclusively. Events are so far and between it's pretty pointless to have a hub that connects to one actually active server.

I Vouch.

Vouch, I suggested giving admins hub permissions a long time ago, but my suggestion was denied and hub moderators were created as a solution. Separating permissions hub vs freedom server is only making it easier for people to break rules and get away with it.

I also agree with the idea of getting rid of hub altogether.

I vouch.

Just a few moments ago, one of the few Hub Mods went offline and it lead to no one being available to sanction the people in the Hub.

If it will take time to remove this system, I suggest we give all freedom-01 admins the permissions that the Hub Mod rank holds too.

We definitely need to simplify the current system, however the hub doesn't have a rank system other than NetworkManager's.

We have no way to sync ranks across the servers until the devs implement the use of NM's API into TFM.

Vouch, it may have had a purpose in the past, but it's just a huge inconvenience now. Remove and give regular Mods ability to moderate Hub.

vouch to remove hub one server would be better with just a fallback chat server, no hub necessary

Due to lack of TFM support for NM (Which as I've said elsewhere has been THE NUMBER 1 PRIORITY for TF Development for over a year) we couldn't make the ranks aligned even if we wanted to.

↩ @'Ryan' I don’t think this is an issue. We could add admins to the “Hub Mod” rank manually. We could then change the name of “Hub Mod” to just be admin, “fixing” the problem.

↩  RedEastWood Not really a good solution... There's good reason we don't do that currently. I'm personally not happy with us going down that route for a number of reasons, the main one being it opens us up to security issues.

Will pick this topic up again when I'm back, only checking in because of MS Teams messages that I needed to address and wanted to check what else was happening.

vouch!!

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↩ @'Ryan' Which as I’ve said elsewhere has been THE NUMBER 1 PRIORITY for TF Development for over a year

This isn't something I'm going at you for by the way, but if it's been the number one priority as set out by you then why hasn't the ELD made any statement or progress on this and seems to be working on other things? Maybe I just didn't look properly but this is the first time I've heard that it's a priority - none of the lead developers updates that I can see mention thinking about this. Nevermind working on it.

Vouch for removing the hub outright

↩ @'Ryan' rather it support vault than NM but yeah i get you

↩  Deauthorized This was implemented it seems, I have no additional complaints.

Merging all threads into this one:
https://forum.totalfreedom.me/…bs-suggestions-megathread