What Can We Do Better?

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      root with 1.18 this’ll almost double.

    Not exactly how this works, Minecraft doesn't update all of the chunks to be 1.18 chunks upon launching the server in 1.18, rather chunks will be updated to the new 1.18 format upon being loaded. As per my testing, a region file can concurrently contain both 1.17 and 1.18 chunks.

    A fool's fool fools fools who foolishly accept the foolishness of a fool's fool.

  •   matscalle the thing about your analogy is - it's easy to say we need more content but throwing new and fancy plugins at the server isn't going to fix everything, in the same way you can't just throw random condiments onto a loaf of bread and expect it to taste good.


    Just saying we need content isn't telling anybody anything.

    Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

  • @'Ryan' make it so the clownfish sounds aren't global, and also give players the ability to toggle the clownfish off if they find it annoying.


    I hate playing the game with sounds off, but the clownfish gets extremely annoying.

  • This server is constantly crashing due to users exploiting bugs in the server software. With Mojang's absolute incompetency and Paper's refusal to fix several server-crashing exploits, it is in our best interest to just maintain a fork of Paper ourselves and fix the root cause of these exploits.

  •   videogamesm12 I've since come under fire for this suggestion, so let me just double down and support my claims even further by explaining why this solution makes more sense than using a plugin like VulnerabilityPatcher.


    VulnerabilityPatcher works by listening for any events and cancels/modifies them if they meet a certain criteria. While this does help protect against exploits to an extent, as long as Minecraft continues to be developed these workarounds will continue to be bypassable, as the plugin doesn't fix the root cause of the exploits in question.


    If we were to use a fork of Paper specifically intended to fix the root cause of these exploits (many of which are extremely simple to fix), we would actually resolve what is causing the exploits in the first place. This means that even if someone were to embed the item into a chest/dispenser/whatever, the exploit would already be fixed so it still wouldn't work. No extra bullshit needed!


    Of course, there are shortcomings to my solution. The main one is that it may make moving versions or updating from upstream more difficult, but frankly I don't see how that's a dealbreaker (unless the changes from upstream fixes critical vulnerabilities on par with Log4Shell) if the outcome is server software more stable than if we were just using regular Paper. Some argue that it would take more development effort - I disagree. I'd argue that adding workarounds to VulnerabilityPatcher to that would be more difficult to pull off than fixing the root problem.

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      Billy7 server moderation??!? From a “total freedom” server?? Wtf is this logi.

    Pretty sure the guy was joking.

    Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

  •   erin I really think forum moderating should be more transparent, because for example if you hadn't quoted billy no one would have any idea they even said anything/what they said, and it's can make a lot of threads confusing.

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    @'Miasmus.' because for example if you hadn’t quoted billy no one would have any idea they even said anything/what they said, and it’s can make a lot of threads confusing.

    it also makes it look like erin just necrobumped it and not billy (if it wasnt a suggestion thread anyway)

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