Discord Appeal #3

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  • Posting the exact same one because I’m not making a new one.

    Your discord tag. (Ex: elmon#6023)
    Ivan#5821

    If known, who banned you? (this can be checked)
    Nick lmfao

    If known, do you know what time you were approximately banned?
    I have no idea - a few months ago

    Why do you think you were banned? (this can also be checked)
    Posted poorly censored NSFW in freedom-01-server-chat.

    Explain why you think you should be unbanned, and promise to never do whatever you did again. If your reason remains unknown, you may skip this question.
    So I know a lot of you are probably thinking I’m planning on breaking the rules again, and that’s not true. At the time of this, I was being irresponsible, and just being a complete all-around idiot. I believe I merit an unban because all I want to do is just come onto the server and talk every once in a while, and I’m not indefinitely banned or banned on any other platforms. I promise not to post NSFW content as it was pretty stupid of me and it isn’t going to happen again.

  •   elmon Not posted porn? If you'd like to talk about my recent moderation history, let's go down the list.


    You can call it derailing. How the fuck are you going to warn me for spam when it wasn't my fault that another person decided to reply the same thing below me?


    The fact that this is even derailing is actually mind-boggling. It was a sarcastic joke to blame Ryan's network company "Superior Network" as a reason to why the server information page was down. My guess is that Ryan took offense and ultimately found a way to censor it and delete it.


    This was not derailing whatsoever and was a reply to an actual comment in the fucking thread, which was on topic. So you know what I did? I reposted it two more times. Ryan was completely in the wrong and after the third repost, decided to make an entire thread, that was ridiculing him and his Discord Manager, off-topic.

  • I object.

    Strictly speaking the ban was for violating the discord tos which is indef with no appeal to start with.

    Secondly the individuals behaviour recently leads me to believe they haven't changed, they continue to be disruptive towards the community on the forums which is why they've had so many warnings and continue not to take ownership over their own fuck ups.

    Wild1145

    Network Owner at TotalFreedom

    Managing Director at ATLAS Media Group Ltd.

    Founder & Owner at MastodonApp.UK

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    @'Ryan' Strictly speaking the ban was for violating the discord tos which is indef with no appeal to start with.

    Did you just pull this from somewhere in the depths of your ass? This has not been mentioned in any of the aforementioned appeals I have made previously.

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    @'Ryan' Secondly the individuals behaviour recently leads me to believe they haven’t changed, they continue to be disruptive towards the community on the forums which is why they’ve had so many warnings and continue not to take ownership over their own fuck ups.

    If I am being "disruptive", as you call it, then don't fucking reply to my comments and leave them alone? 99.9% of my comments are responses on the threads that tie in with the topic that is being discussed. I'm not going to take ownership over multiple strikes that make absolutely positively zero sense whatsoever. The ban was for posting pornography; not being a smartass.

    And then here you are, censoring me again:

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      Ivan Did you just pull this from somewhere in the depths of your ass? This has not been mentioned in any of the aforementioned appeals I have made previously.

    Posting nsfw content in non nsfw channels are a violation of the discord community guidelines and following them is a requirement of the tos. It's not come up before probably because people are human and forget this shit.

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      Ivan If I am being “disruptive”, as you call it, then don’t fucking reply to my comments and leave them alone? 99.9% of my comments are responses on the threads that tie in with the topic that is being discussed. I’m not going to take ownership over multiple strikes that make absolutely positively zero sense whatsoever. The ban was for posting pornography; not being a smartass.

    I don't generally reply to your spam or thread de railing. I moderate it and remove it. You actively disrupted multiple threads and took them off topic and violated the community guidelines and forum posting guidelines. You might not agree with them but frankly that supports my point that you're nothing but a disruption to the community.

    Wild1145

    Network Owner at TotalFreedom

    Managing Director at ATLAS Media Group Ltd.

    Founder & Owner at MastodonApp.UK

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      Ivan And then here you are, censoring me again:

    Posts were reported for being irrelevant and they were deleted. That's as much as I know on those.

    Wild1145

    Network Owner at TotalFreedom

    Managing Director at ATLAS Media Group Ltd.

    Founder & Owner at MastodonApp.UK

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    @'Ryan' Posting nsfw content in non nsfw channels are a violation of the discord community guidelines and following them is a requirement of the tos. It’s not come up before probably because people are human and forget this shit.

    Except it was censored... poorly... but it was censored. I don't think people forgot either, see Appeal #2...

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    @'Ryan' I don’t generally reply to your spam or thread de railing. I moderate it and remove it. You actively disrupted multiple threads and took them off topic and violated the community guidelines and forum posting guidelines. You might not agree with them but frankly that supports my point that you’re nothing but a disruption to the community.

    None of the posts I've made that were striked, made the threads go off-topic. Most of them were jokes that not only tied along with the threads, but were just deleted for no reason and striked.

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    @'Ryan' Posts were reported for being irrelevant and they were deleted. That’s as much as I know on those.

    Except that post was completely on topic. The reason he was banned, the reason he could be banned if he did it again, and even the second post, where I was actually trying to be nice... in no way at all was that irrelevant, when it was literally in the context of the post...

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      Ivan None of the posts I’ve made that were striked, made the threads go off-topic. Most of them were jokes that not only tied along with the threads, but were just deleted for no reason and striked.

    Maybe tell that to the people that reported your pots for off topic. You detailed the treads and intentionally tool them off topic.

    If you feel the warnings were unfair appeal them.

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      Ivan Except it was censored… poorly… but it was censored. I don’t think people forgot either, see Appeal #2…

    Doesn't strictly make any difference. Nsfw content is nsfw...

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      Ivan Except that post was completely on topic. The reason he was banned, the reason he could be banned if he did it again, and even the second post, where I was actually trying to be nice… in no way at all was that irrelevant, when it was literally in the context of the post…

    I'm not the only moderator. I'm just telling you it was reported and deleted. Looking at the thread other posts were as well in that chain.

    Wild1145

    Network Owner at TotalFreedom

    Managing Director at ATLAS Media Group Ltd.

    Founder & Owner at MastodonApp.UK

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    @'Ryan' Maybe tell that to the people that reported your pots for off topic. You detailed the treads and intentionally tool them off topic.

    If you feel the warnings were unfair appeal them.

    Since when could you appeal warnings...? Didn't know this was a thing. There's always an end-user (the moderator) who reviews these posts - I shouldn't be telling that to the people who reported my posts, but merely the moderator who did a poor job of checking the posts and removing them.

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    @'Ryan' Doesn’t strictly make any difference. Nsfw content is nsfw…

    Except when you can't see the parts that make it NSFW, it makes a difference...

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    @'Ryan' I’m not the only moderator. I’m just telling you it was reported and deleted. Looking at the thread other posts were as well in that chain.

    Then I think there definitely needs to be some investigation into the posts that were deleted and maybe some need to be restored.

  • Some of the strikes were absolute bullshit and we need to have a serious think about just how restricting this forum is. That being said I can see a few strikes here that were perfectly valid.

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    @'Ryan' Strictly speaking the ban was for violating the discord tos which is indef with no appeal to start with.

    The majority of bans will then be indefinite (harassing, spamming, advertising are also in violation of TOS).

    Is there any point in voting on this if it doesn’t have an appeal?

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      Ivan Since when could you appeal warnings…? Didn’t know this was a thing. There’s always an end-user (the moderator) who reviews these posts - I shouldn’t be telling that to the people who reported my posts, but merely the moderator who did a poor job of checking the posts and removing them.

    Warnings are relatively new but if you genuinely think some were not fair the forum staff team can re review them. With that said I think you deserved each and every one of them but that's because I warned you for them.

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      Ivan Except when you can’t see the parts that make it NSFW, it makes a difference…

    I didn't see the original content I'm just saying if it is nsfw content you were banned for, it's questionable if you should even get an appeal or not.

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      Ivan Then I think there definitely needs to be some investigation into the posts that were deleted and maybe some need to be restored.

    I will have a look this evening after work and see if I agree or disagree with the moderation action taken.

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      RedEastWood Some of the strikes were absolute bullshit and we need to have a serious think about just how restricting this forum is. That being said I can see a few strikes here that were perfectly valid.

    I think given most people use the forums without warning strikes it might be a good indication that it's the user who is causing issues rather than the rules being bad.

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      RedEastWood The majority of bans will then be indefinite (harassing, spamming, advertising are also in violation of TOS).

    Quite possible. That's one for @"simplynick"#11

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      RedEastWood Is there any point in voting on this if it doesn’t have an appeal?

    Until @"simplynick"#11 confirms what the ban was classed under I'd continue to vote. I simply wanted to remind people that nsfw content in non nsfw channels is a violation of the tos.

    Wild1145

    Network Owner at TotalFreedom

    Managing Director at ATLAS Media Group Ltd.

    Founder & Owner at MastodonApp.UK

  • Object. I’ve come to learn that people don’t change and when they do it’s blindingly obvious. Just last week I banned you for straight up harassment and if this indicates anything it’s that your immaturity is still as blatant as it ever was.

  •   elmon Except it’s different when it’s straight up criticism and not harassment… he almost deleted the server because someone decided to call him obese

    On top of that, he has a tendency to not be able to control his emotions (see the thread about Noah’s ban appeal; to sum it up he made the entire thread off-topic after he wrongfully deleted my posts and I reposted them). This server has felt like a dictatorship for a long time.