Zarcana's Admin Application

  •   RedEastWood It depends, if they're like that OCD_365 dude who bypassed nearly constantly for about a week or so, and spammed in all caps in global chat to harass us, then yes, i would give them a ban/mute depending on the situation, otherwise, i'd just ignore them unless they need help, or in the case that they start singling out certain members (which as far as i know does count as harassment), then i would probably smite/mute them(i changed this answer 2 times after thinking about it)

    Endermatter Cat-Person with wings and Magic who follows the Cat Religion.

    "Never Surrender."

  • Red raises a good point. You could be the most active and available admin, but would that really matter if your judgement isn't clear? I realize that this is personal preference, but I would take an admin with a great judgement over an extremely active admin with a weak judgement any day. Can I be confident that you will enforce the Conduct Policy fairly, even on players involved with the guild you lead?


    Neutral. See post below for my new vote.

  •   videogamesm12 Yes, you can be sure of that, as i wouldnt use a tempban for griefing, because they're going to come back in 5 minutes and do it again, if im unsure on what punishment to use, i'll look at the conduct policy to determine which one to use.

    Endermatter Cat-Person with wings and Magic who follows the Cat Religion.

    "Never Surrender."

  • I object. It's not because of anything you have done to earn yourself an objection, but rather because you haven't demonstrated enough of an understanding of how you would need to act as an admin. You could gain a better understanding through being trained by an existing admin, though some of the aspects I am concerned about simply need to be learned through experience here or gaining common sense in general. For example, would you just use the rules as an instruction booklet for issuing sanctions, or actually assess the situation and use common sense to reach a decision? Would you be able to restrain yourself from using your admin permissions just to benefit your op clan?


    Other people might not see it as enough of a reason, and they'll argue that training should be done after the admin is appointed, but I just disagree with that idea. Frankly, there are a million other active admins in your timezone and an applicant is going to really need to impress me in some manner to earn my vouch.

  • @'Panther' In terms of the first question, its kinda both, i would take the sanction stated in the rules, then assess the situation and use common sense, as for the second question, i dont know what you mean in terms of perms that could benefit the ender empire, i'd like to know so i can avoid abusing them as much as possible.

    Endermatter Cat-Person with wings and Magic who follows the Cat Religion.

    "Never Surrender."

  • @'aeluraydakx4' not the place to have this kind of discussion.


    Getting back on topic, I have a few concerns. Not only what others have said here, but also a few of my own.


    In recent weeks you have been rather strongly advocating for ops to be able to paste NBT - which is fair enough, it's a useful feature. But just last week, I recall explicitly stating to you why the feature was blocked for ops and why it was unrealistic to think of any ideas for the near future - and I definitely told you it would remain admin only.


    Now a week later you've applied for admin. And I hope that one can see why I'm raising this issue - just a week after you were told a feature you really want was admin only, you apply for admin.


    ~~Further to this, I'm concerned by these responses. ~~

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      Zarcana i would take the sanction stated in the rules, then assess the situation and use common sense, as for the second question, i dont know what you mean in terms of perms that could benefit the ender empire, i'd like to know so i can avoid abusing them as much as possible.


      Zarcana i would give them a ban/mute depending on the situation, otherwise, i'd just ignore them unless they need help, or in the case that they start singling out certain members (which as far as i know does count as harassment), then i would probably smite/mute them

    You're saying what we wanna hear.


    Maybe it's just me being cynical, but your responses just have an odd tone to them and the words just seem to be exactly what one would think the asker would want.


    My concerns with your motivations are leading me to vote an objection here. Would just like to say I hold no ill will against you as a person tho.


    No vote here, just leaving this up for transparency.

    Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

  • vote changed -- vouch

    A triumphant roar echoes from atop the Seat of the Aspects as Nasz'uro, the Unbound Legact is formed.

  • The reasoning for some of these objects is quite absurd.


    An OP enquired about NBT paste, and a week later they applied for admin - and now you’re going to hold that over them.


    That same OP has answered valid reservations with correct responses, and now it’s being turned against them as “saying exactly what we want to hear”.


    The cards are so heavily stacked against Zarcana here.

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      erin You're saying what we wanna hear.

    Of course he is…? It’s the correct answer. What did you expect, him to go and say he’ll ban all of them with no reasoning?

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      erin Maybe it's just me being cynical, but your responses just have an odd tone to them and the words just seem to be exactly what one would think the asker would want.

    So essentially this user can’t win. If he answers correctly there’s an issue, if he answers incorrectly there’s an issue. I know you well, and I trust you can see the issue with your reasoning here.

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      erin Now a week later you've applied for admin. And I hope that one can see why I'm raising this issue

    So what? He asked about NBT and applied for admin a week later - I don’t see any merit in your argument. If this user abuses NBT, he will be sanctioned accordingly. Don’t hold hypotheticals over his head.

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    @'Panther' You could gain a better understanding through being trained by an existing admin

    This has always come after being accepted for admin. Why is this user expected to be fully trained before becoming admin?

  • @'Panther'   erin   fleshly   root @'_97'


    Can I just say one thing


    If an op came on after 2 weeks and applied, under the same circumstances I'd agree with you guys in objecting, since we don't know the user


    However, Zarcana has been on this server for years. I can tell you that they will not use this power maliciously. It's not fair to object based on an assumption (which seems to me coincidence) and it's not fair to rob a person of a chance based on what may happen.


    Let's say Zarcana abuses by, idk, not punishing someone in Enders. Oh well, they get sanctioned.


    However, how do you guys wish them to prove themselves when all you say when they give their word is 'youre hearing what we want to hear'? It seems a bit unfair to me.


    And also this 'they need to be trained' is laughable as fuck given the inactivity of most admins

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